Not really - you could use jspc to compile your JSPs into servlets
and then compile the servlets before install time (like at installer build
time).  Then you would only need to distribute the JRE.  This would also
give you a runtime speed up and still allow developers to use JSP
technology.

        This all assumes that you application doesn't require the users to
compile their own JSPs.

        Another option, as was pointed out, is to use Jikes.  I am unsure of
its distribution regulations, so you will need to investigate this.

        Randy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eitan Ben Noach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 11:41 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Does Tomcat needs jdk 1.2.2
> 
> 
> Thanks for this very important legal note.
> 
> It is very sad to here that you can't deploy a product 
> without relying on
> the user to install before another product ( which is a 
> development tool ).
> 
> Poor us.
> 
> Eitan
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Randy Layman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 2:38 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Does Tomcat needs jdk 1.2.2
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >     If you read the license that you accept when you 
> > download the JDK
> > you'll note that you can't redistribute any component of the 
> > JDK.  If you
> > read the license for the JVM download, you are free to 
> > redistribute.  The
> > only real difference between the packages is the tools.jar 
> > file, implying
> > that this is the file that they want to restrict.
> > 
> >     Randy
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Eitan Ben Noach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:36 AM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: Does Tomcat needs jdk 1.2.2
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks Randy,
> > > 
> > > Can you please direct me to the place were SUN says that 
> > > tools.jar may not
> > > be redistribute?
> > > 
> > > (We are using JSPs. )
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Eitan
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Randy Layman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:33 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: Does Tomcat needs jdk 1.2.2
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >         If you are using just servlets, you don't need a JDK.  
> > > > If you are
> > > > deploying JSPs then you need the JavaC compiler (in the 
> > > > tools.jar file in
> > > > the later versions of the JDK), which is the component that 
> > > > Sun indicates
> > > > that you are not supposed to redistribute.
> > > > 
> > > >         Randy
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Eitan Ben Noach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 8:49 AM
> > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > > Subject: RE: Does Tomcat needs jdk 1.2.2
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks Sam,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Actually, my intention was to ask if Tomcat need JDK at all. 
> > > > > Now it's clear
> > > > > that the answer is yes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I want to be more precise: what parts of the JDK are needed, 
> > > > > since we want
> > > > > to deploy Tomcat with our product, without the need of full 
> > > > > JDK installation
> > > > > - only those special resources. What are they?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Eitan
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Sam Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:36 PM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Does Tomcat needs jdk 1.2.2
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > erm, my understanding is that Tomcat only requires 
> Java 1.1.7 
> > > > > > or above. By
> > > > > > default the server.xml that ships with Tomcat actually 
> > > > > > comments out those
> > > > > > areas of code that require Java 1.2/Java 2, e.g. the use of 
> > > > > a security
> > > > > > manager/policies
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > sam
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Frans Thamura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 11:09 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Does Tomcat needs jdk 1.2.2
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Ya, JSDK.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Because Tomcat is a server based on Java
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Frans
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Eitan Ben Noach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:40 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Does Tomcat needs jdk 1.2.2
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does Tomcat needs the installation of JDK 1.2.2?
> > > > > > > > If yes, what specific jars ( or any other resources ) 
> > > > > are needed?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Eitan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

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