Well spotted Maxim. When I did a test I didn’t realize when doing so the 2 user 
accounts I was testing both had moderator permissions. Silly me.

I’m sure @kaffeesurrogat will be happy to hear that it was not only him.

All the best.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:07 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> "Owner ID" is not relevant, ignore it
> It seems I was able to reproduce this issue, and investigating right now
> 
>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 00:49, kaffeesurrogat <kaffeesurro...@posteo.de> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 26/08/2020 18:46, Denis Noctor wrote:
>> > If you take a look at this...
>> > https://openmeetings.apache.org/
>> >
>> > Near the bottom of the page you will notice one of the changes /
>> > improvements... “Direct link for entering the room with room name (not
>> > ID)”
>> >
>> > As a result... maybe... there are some field changes (additions) to
>> > the database.
>> 
>> you might be right ;-)
>> 
>> >
>> > You previously mentioned: 2 rooms, 2 different servers, 2 different
>> > versions of OM. I would keep everything the same... same version of OM.
>> 
>> sorry, that was some kind of missunderstanding. all my testing were done
>> with one server OM 5.0.0 (new release) on it
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> > I’ve tried to reproduce this on my set up... using one server, 2 users
>> > logged into the same room (one using updated version of Chrome and the
>> > other using updated Firefox),  one install of OM on server and
>> > everything works fine.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:24 AM, kaffeesurrogat <kaffeesurro...@posteo.de
>> > <mailto:kaffeesurro...@posteo.de>> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 26/08/2020 18:16, Denis Noctor wrote:
>> >>> So let me get try to get my head around this... because I didn’t
>> >>> notice you mention this before...
>> >> that's  right .... i just noticed it a few minutes ago .....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Are you trying to set up a “clustering environment”.... using 2
>> >>> different versions of OM?
>> >>
>> >> no ... i have one machine to make changes and updates one for daily use
>> >> no clustering at all  ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:59 AM, kaffeesurrogat
>> >>>> <kaffeesurro...@posteo.de <mailto:kaffeesurro...@posteo.de>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Me again,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> i made comparison between the my conference rooms.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> First conference room runs on server 1, older version of
>> >>>> openmeetings ...
>> >>>> Second conference room runs on server 2, new release of openmeetings
>> >>>> with several mic problem ....
>> >>>>
>> >>>> the room on server 2 does not have an Owner ID .... mmmmmm .....
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On 26/08/2020 17:46, kaffeesurrogat wrote:
>> >>>>> Deear Denis, dear Maxim, dear Alvaro, dear ... oh there are so
>> >>>>> many ;-)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> i checked, if this is reproducible. I've made a note of every
>> >>>>> single step:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 1) login user 1 (moderator)
>> >>>>> 2) user 1 entering private room
>> >>>>> 3) user 1 turns camera and mic on
>> >>>>> 4) login user 2 (not a moderator)
>> >>>>> 5) user 2 is entering private room
>> >>>>> 6) user 2 requests permissions to use camera and mic
>> >>>>> 7) user 1 grants permissions to use camera and mic via activities and
>> >>>>> actions
>> >>>>> 8) user 2 turns on camera and mic
>> >>>>>   user 1 and user 2 see/hear each other
>> >>>>> 9) user 1 leaves the room
>> >>>>>   user 2 sees "wait for moderator..." message
>> >>>>> 10) user 1 re-enters the room
>> >>>>>   wait for moderator dissapears
>> >>>>>  user 1/user 2 cameras/mics off
>> >>>>> 11) user 1 turns cam/mic back on
>> >>>>>    => user 2 sees user 1
>> >>>>> 12) user 2 turns cam/mic back on
>> >>>>>    => user 1 does not see user 2 (question mark face ...)
>> >>>>>    => several mic symbols displayed on user 2 - browser for user
>> >>>>> 2.....
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> see attached pic ....
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> user1
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> chrome 84.0.04147.135 (Official Build) 64 Bit gentoo linux machine
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> user 2
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Firefox 79 (64 Bit)
>> >>>>> Windows 10
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> user 1 and user 2 both on the same network different machines
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> server
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ubuntu 18.04 LTS
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> openmeetings ...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Version
>> >>>>> 5.0.0
>> >>>>> Revision
>> >>>>> 422e22f
>> >>>>> Build date
>> >>>>> 2020-08-18T00:21:52Z
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Many thanks again,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> kaffeesurrogat
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 26/08/2020 08:50, Denis Noctor wrote:
>> >>>>>> @kaffeesurrogat,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> First of all can you confirm that you can see and hear at least 2
>> >>>>>> users in a room as it is a little unclear... and if you’ve read
>> >>>>>> my previous email.
>> >>>>> yes there are two users in the room. the can hear an see each
>> >>>>> other ....
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> I won’t be able to respond immediately as I am on the the other
>> >>>>>> side of the planet and am heading off to bed... (1.38am)... but I
>> >>>>>> am curious to see if you have been able to reproduce this
>> >>>>>> scenario more than once... as it is not very clear from your posts.
>> >>>>> yes .....
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> The situation you described might be exceptionally rare... as I
>> >>>>>> can’t see the reason for a moderator to leave a room when others
>> >>>>>> are in it... and as a result this scenario might be an
>> >>>>>> oversight... but a very small one... taking meeting protocol into
>> >>>>>> consideration. But I’ve recommended an alternative.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hope this helps somewhat.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Again, it is important to stress that it would be useful to
>> >>>>>> identify server specs, browser versions and so on.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> All the best, Denis.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 1:09 AM, kaffeesurrogat
>> >>>>>>> <kaffeesurro...@posteo.de <mailto:kaffeesurro...@posteo.de>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Dear Maxim, dear Alvaro, dear ....
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> i did use a linux machine and a windows machine to test my setup
>> >>>>>>> .....
>> >>>>>>> I'm quite shure that I made a config mistake, but which one ?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Many thanks for your testing and trying,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> kaffeesurrogat ....
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 25/08/2020 19:07, Ajay Simha wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Are you using two different systems for two logins or just one
>> >>>>>>>> system
>> >>>>>>>> with two browser
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 18:29 Maxim Solodovnik
>> >>>>>>>> <solomax...@gmail.com <mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  I'll try to test your steps
>> >>>>>>>>  will take some time ....
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 01:38, kaffeesurrogat
>> >>>>>>>>  <kaffeesurro...@posteo.de <mailto:kaffeesurro...@posteo.de>
>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:kaffeesurro...@posteo.de>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>      Dear List,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>      many thanks for your new release. I feel ashamed, that I have
>> >>>>>>>>      to ask
>> >>>>>>>>      again and again on this list.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>      I've installed OM-5.0.0 on an Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and I've
>> >>>>>>>>      followed the
>> >>>>>>>>      guides from the wiki.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>      I can open up my camera and mic. The following is happening:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>      1) moderator enters the rom while nobody is there (chrome).
>> >>>>>>>>      2) second user enters the room. Both enable there camera and
>> >>>>>>>>      mic. fine
>> >>>>>>>>      :-) (firefox)
>> >>>>>>>>      3) The moderator leaves the room and the second users sees a
>> >>>>>>>>      message to
>> >>>>>>>>      be patient until the moderator enters the room again.
>> >>>>>>>>      4) moderators reenters the room, both cameras are turned off
>> >>>>>>>>      5) second users turns on his camera ....
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>          quite a few error messages show up, the camera window is
>> >>>>>>>>      blue and
>> >>>>>>>>      blank on the second users screen, on the moderator screens i
>> >>>>>>>>          can see only the questionmarkman ...
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>      I've attached all of my config files and some screenshots as
>> >>>>>>>>      png ...
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>      I did check the coturn server with trickle ... also attached
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>      I did attache a screen shot of the moderator account,
>> >>>>>>>> several mic
>> >>>>>>>>      symbols on the screen
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>      The invalidStateError appears on the second users screen
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>      The RtcPeerConnection on the moderator screen .....
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>      I'm lost .... already double checked my config files and
>> >>>>>>>>      reread the
>> >>>>>>>>      installation manuals ....
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>      Many thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>      kaffeesurogat
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  --
>> >>>>>>>>  Best regards,
>> >>>>>>>>  Maxim
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Maxim

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