Frankly speaking I do not care about EXACTLY ONCE... I am OK with ATLEAST ONCE 
at long as system does not fail every 5 to 7 days with no recovery option.
    On Wednesday, June 17, 2020, 02:31:50 PM PDT, Rachana Srivastava 
<rachanasrivas...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:  
 
  Thanks so much TD.  Thanks for forwarding your datalake project but at this 
time we have budget constraints we can only use open source project.  
I just want the Structured Streaming Application or Spark Streaming DStream 
Application to run without and issue for a long time..  I do not want the size 
of metadata to grow too large that we start getting these OOM issues.  The only 
way to resolve this OOM issues is by deleting the checkpoint and metadata 
folders.  That means loosing customer data.   We have 60 seconds batch where we 
are coleasing and returning only one file per partition.  So we do not have 
small file issues also...
What do you suggest?  How should we resolve this issue?
We have very simple 5 line program that reads data from Kafka and output data 
to S3.  1. Reading records from Kafka topic
  Dataset<Row> inputDf = spark \
  .readStream \
  .format("kafka") \
  .option("kafka.bootstrap.servers", "host1:port1,host2:port2") \
  .option("subscribe", "topic1") \
  .option("startingOffsets", "earliest") \
  .load()
2. Use from_json API from Spark to extract your data for further transformation 
in a dataset.
   Dataset<Row> dataDf = inputDf.select(from_json(col("value").cast("string"), 
EVENT_SCHEMA).alias("event"))
       ....withColumn("oem_id", col("metadata.oem_id"));
3. Construct a temp table of above dataset using SQLContext
   SQLContext sqlContext = new SQLContext(sparkSession);
   dataDf.createOrReplaceTempView("event");
4. Flatten events since Parquet does not support hierarachical data.
5. Store output in parquet format on S3
   StreamingQuery query = flatDf.writeStream().format("parquet")

    On Wednesday, June 17, 2020, 02:02:20 PM PDT, Jungtaek Lim 
<kabhwan.opensou...@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Just in case if anyone prefers ASF projects then there are other alternative 
projects in ASF as well, alphabetically, Apache Hudi [1] and Apache Iceberg 
[2]. Both are recently graduated as top level projects. (DISCLAIMER: I'm not 
involved in both.)
BTW it would be nice if we make the metadata implementation on file stream 
source/sink be pluggable - from what I've seen, plugin approach has been 
selected as the way to go whenever some part is going to be complicated and it 
becomes arguable whether the part should be handled in Spark project vs should 
be outside. e.g. checkpoint manager, state store provider, etc. It would open 
up chances for the ecosystem to play with the challenge "without completely 
re-writing the file stream source and sink", focusing on scalability for 
metadata in a long run query. Alternative projects described above will still 
provide more higher-level features and look attractive, but sometimes it may be 
just "using a sledgehammer to crack a nut".
1. https://hudi.apache.org/2. https://iceberg.apache.org/


On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:34 AM Tathagata Das <tathagata.das1...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Hello Rachana,
Getting exactly-once semantics on files and making it scale to a very large 
number of files are very hard problems to solve. While Structured Streaming + 
built-in file sink solves the exactly-once guarantee that DStreams could not, 
it is definitely limited in other ways (scaling in terms of files, combining 
batch and streaming writes in the same place, etc). And solving this problem 
requires a holistic solution that is arguably beyond the scope of the Spark 
project. 
There are other projects that are trying to solve this file management issue. 
For example, Delta Lake (full disclosure, I am involved in it) was built to 
exactly solve this problem - get exactly-once and ACID guarantees on files, but 
also scale to handling millions of files. Please consider it as part of your 
solution. 



On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 9:50 AM Rachana Srivastava 
<rachanasrivas...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

I have written a simple spark structured steaming app to move data from Kafka 
to S3. Found that in order to support exactly-once guarantee spark creates 
_spark_metadata folder, which ends up growing too large as the streaming app is 
SUPPOSE TO run FOREVER. But when the streaming app runs for a long time the 
metadata folder grows so big that we start getting OOM errors. Only way to 
resolve OOM is delete Checkpoint and Metadata folder and loose VALUABLE 
customer data.

Spark open JIRAs SPARK-24295 and SPARK-29995, SPARK-30462, and SPARK-24295)
Since Spark Streaming was NOT broken like this. Is Spark Streaming a BETTER 
choice?

    

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