use gmail for mailing lists to get threading and search out of the experience.
blogs and lists work well enough. whenever someone tries to centralize the so-called community, it doesnt work out. there are more than just one reason for this. also, this list isnt "the community". it just so happens to contain a small group of active users who give a sense of community on and offline. sull On 2/26/07, Ron Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Threaded comments would be nice. A decent search function would be as > well. > > Community. > Permanence. > Activism. > Organization. > Education. > Entertainment. > > Does any of that really happen on the list? > > And we can't even send embedded images, let alone embed video. > > I know that people have started wikis and other CMS apps, but these > require a bit of knowledge and experience, or people have to learn > something new. > > When I think of the hundreds of conversations that I would like to > recall and/or research, hundreds of valuable threads and ideas, I > have no idea where to begin with these groups. > > The feature set of scoop is what I think we need, and where I think > we should move, especially if we are going have an impact and > transfer this groups values to people. > > I love blip, but I'm just thinking of an independent place for > videobloggers to congregate and share information. Something that we, > not Yahoo, create and maintain. If we want an additional feature we > install it. If we have a problem we resolve it. > > Ron Watson > > On the Web: > http://pawsitivevybe.com > http://k9disc.com > http://k9disc.blip.tv > > On Feb 26, 2007, at 11:46 AM, [EMAIL > PROTECTED]<sdickert%40rawlingsatlantic.com>wrote: > > > Okay - if off Yahoo is what you desire - what are the feat you want? > > > > Ability to email each other on a mailing list? > > Community/moblogging? > > Threaded comments? > > Personal diaries? > > Forums with threads? > > > > What are the features you desire? What is the problem you want to > > solve? > > > > I think of what blip.tv offers and what blubrry.com offers. What do > > you specifically want? > > --- > > Sanford Dickert > > Rawlings Atlantic Inc > > (954) 323 4450 > > > > Sent from my treo 650 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Ron Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <k9disc%40mac.com>> > > Subj: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogging about Vlogging - Vlogging > > about Life > > Date: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:03 pm > > Size: 2K > > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > What are the Yahoo groups core values and how do we transmit them to > > > > the newbies and other folks stepping up to the camcorder? > > > > While I love this group and find the information to be totally > > priceless, I find this juxtaposition that Steve puts up here to be > > quite interesting. > > > > We're doing all of our serious business at the Wal-Mart of the net, a > > Yahoo Group. > > > > It's pretty ironic, really. > > > > All the reliance that we have on the Open Source Community, all the > > talk of grassroots and content creator control, and here we are > > spending hours and hours on a Yahoo List. > > > > Talk about flushing stuff down the memory hole. > > > > These lists were not meant to be communities. > > > > They are dysfunctional on their face, and are really only suitable > > for announcements and such. > > > > What this Yahoo Group needs is a Scoop site. > > > > This Yahoo group should build the dailyKos of Videoblogging. > > > > That's what we need to do, and that's how we're going to be able to > > compete with all of the MyHeavy's that are going to be coming at us. > > > > We need a megaphone, and all we got here is a mailing list; we can't > > even embed images! > > > > Anyway, I'd be happy to pitch in wholeheartedly, although I don't > > have the DB/MYSQL knowledge to get Scoop configured, I'm sure I could > > help dial her in. > > > > I don't think any of the other CMS setups are as community organized > > as scoop, and don't think they would be as effective as scoop for a > > couple thousand users. > > > > Check out: > > http://boomantribune.com > > http://dailykos.com > > > > If you haven't seen a scoop site. > > > > Anyway, just shooting my mouth off again, but I think the disconnect > > I felt at Steve's quoted comment is something that we must deal with > > if we are to mold any sort of values for newbies and the public in > > general. > > > > I think the way to do that is to get our attention off this list and > > on building something. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Ron Watson > > > > On the Web: > > http://pawsitivevybe.com > > http://k9disc.com > > http://k9disc.blip.tv > > > > On Feb 25, 2007, at 2:48 PM, Steve Garfield wrote: > > > > > At the public access station where I taught video blogging for a > > > number of sessions, they've done away with the stand alone video > > > blogging class and now have an 'Adding Multimedia to Your Web Page' > > > class because people want to know how to put pictures, audio and > > > video on the web to share... > > > > > > http://www.cctvcambridge.org/?q=node/94#html > > > > > > On Feb 25, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Gena wrote: > > > > > > > There are other folks "teaching" vlogging such as Videomaker > > > magazine > > > > who calls it "Vodcasting" They started a series of articles, have > > > some > > > > training videos and they are putting they thoughts and > > > interpretations > > > > on how to do it for their readers. Different views, different > > > agendas. > > > > --- message truncated --- > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
