Baseline works fine in h.264 320x240 for ipods, but baseline profile
in 640x480 h.264 is not ipod compatable at any bitrate.  In order for
it to be ipod compatable at 640x480 it has to be in the new Simple
h.264 profile. 

I've tried every bitrate I can think of in h.264 with baseline profile
but none of them will transfer if its in 640x480.  Straight MP4 will
work, but it looks terrible compared to h.264 and the file size is
always larger.

But of course I could be doing something wrong.  If someone can make a
MP4 h.264 codec in 640x480 and have it transfer to an ipod I'll jump
for joy because i've been stuck with 320x240 format because of file size.

Rev. Chumley
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think the confusion centres around this bit " I have quicktime pro
> but you cant go 640x480 AND manipulate bitrate that I can figure out
> because they don't have simple profile yet just base"
> 
> Unless something has changed recently and Im out of date, it is
> baseline profile that you want to select to make ipod compatible h264.
> simple profile is an older mpeg4 profile to the best of my knowledge.
> o in advanced h264 settings, untick main and tick baseline. Then if
> youve got the right res, framerate etc, you'll end up with ipod &
> apple-tv compatible .mp4 files. The Apple TV can also work with h264
> main profile, but it wont be ipod compatible if you use that (slightly
> better quality) profile.
> 
> Other reasons to do it this way, apart from having control over
> bitrate and ths filesize, is that quicktime would sometimes make bad
> decisions about how to resize footage. Michael Verdi talked about this
> quite a lot on the past, maybeit is better now that theyve gone for
> alrger resolutions?
> 
> Anyway most of my experience on this is quicktime on the mac, but it
> should be mostly the same on windows. The options may be selected ina
>  slightly different place but should be mostly the same, baseline.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David Meade" <meade.dave@>
> wrote:
> >
> > hmm Im not sure I understand.  Do you not see the limit bitrate option
> > in the h.264 settings?  Or are you saying that regarless of the
> > bitrate settings the standard h.264 codec in windows QTPro  cant be
> > ipod compatabe?
> > 
> > I've not done alot of testing ... just been clicking around in the
> > options screen.  I'll see if I can get an h.264 640x480 on my ipod
> > this weekend (from windows QTpro).
> > 
> > On 4/14/07, Chumley <metaflibble@> wrote:
> > > Hey David,
> > >
> > > Thanks for looking into that, oh but let me clarify.  I need the
> > > resulting MP4 with h.264 codec to be 640x480 and iPod compatable.
> > >
> > > I could of course use the m4v export to ipod option but my show is
> > > very very long (usually 1 hour 30 mins)and the straight export make
> > > the file size WAY to huge. Thus needing to manipulate the bitrate.
> > >
> > > Rev. Chumley
> > >
> > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David Meade" <meade.dave@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hmm, I seem to be able to do it ok in QT Pro on my PC.
> > > >
> > > > (There is a settings button where you can set all the h.264
> settings,
> > > > but you have to then click an entirely different "size" button
> to set
> > > > the size).
> > > >
> > > > I'll try to create a video w/ these settings on my PC today and
> out it
> > > > online somewhere.
> > > >
> > > > On 4/14/07, Chumley <metaflibble@> wrote:
> > > > > Speaking of settings,
> > > > > Does anyone know of a program (on PC) that allows bitrate
> manipulation
> > > > > of h.264 codec MP4s in 640x480?  I have quicktime pro but you
> cant go
> > > > > 640x480 AND manipulate bitrate that I can figure out because
they
> > > > > don't have simple profile yet just base.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rev. Chumley
> > > > > http://www.cultofuhf.com
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Casey McKinnon"
> > > > > <caseymckinnon@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Time to share...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For those interested parties... you don't have to export
> from "Movie
> > > > > > to Apple TV".  With these settings, you can get a file %50 of
> > > the size
> > > > > > you would get with the default settings.  Just click on
> "Movie to
> > > > > > QuickTime Movie" in QuickTime Pro and enter the settings
in this
> > > > > > screenshot:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/caseymckinnon/433249448/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you're using 4:3 instead of 16:9, put the dimensions as
> 640x480
> > > > > > instead of 640x360.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lots of love,
> > > > > > Rudy and Casey
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > http://galacticast.com
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.DavidMeade.com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > http://www.DavidMeade.com
> >
>


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