Just to finish my waffle, I hadnt noticed that podtech have sectioned things more clearly than when I last looked, so yours and other's envirogreensustain vids are in a 'clean tech' section. But I dont get a sense of there being a community of viewers at podtech, due to lack of comments or other features that would enable such things (or I just cant find them).
Still this particular example illustrates in my mind how much different shows being chucked together can create a strange impression. My initial reaction to podtechs green stuff has always been some internal revulsion and cynicism about greenwashing, due to the number of pictures of cars I am presented with. Well it seems that this is down to just one of the four shows that make up their 'clean tech' channel/whatever, yet it dominates the cover that I shoudlnt be judging the book by, but do. Anyway I was just using that as an example of the effects of themed shows being put together in some way, Im not trying to drag you into a discussion about that stuff in particular unless you want one of course ;) Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well put! > > So following on from what I was just waffling about, do you feel there > are decent places to go to reach out to your potential audience, or do > the directories & other video hosting sites etc all seem to offer a > similar, fairly generic and unfocussed, sense of community/audience? > > On the otherhand I know in the past quite a lot of people had problems > working out what pidgeon hole they might fit into, or making > assumptions about who the target audience is, what genre theirvlog is, > etc. Its easier for themed shows of course, and so also easier for > them to harness the traditional models of marketing, netowrking, etc? > > I dunno, I guess 'group' functions on the likes of youtube are part of > the surrent solution, but I still find nearly everything and everyone > quite randomly, perhaps I would like a structure imposed that cannot > be done, I dunno, oh microcommunities where are ye? I mean do most > peoples blogs get enough comments for the individual sites to feel > like communities? Doesnt feel that way to me, generally, but maybe my > expectations are out of whack. > > Cheers > > Steve Elbows > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" <jay.dedman@> wrote: > > > > > 1) What is the value of a YouTube viewer and subscriber . > > > 2) For those vloggers who have posted to YouTube, what value have you > > > seen? > > > > here's an example. > > we posted a video on our site: > > > http://ryanishungry.com/2007/04/22/wendy-tremayne-and-mikey-sklar-green-pioneers/ > > > > Mikey (who's featured in the video) uploaded it to Youtube: > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=xO6YZa2ZB44 > > > > About 5,000 people watched the video on our site. > > About 50,000 people watched it through Youtube. (we must have been put > > on the front page) > > > > Is there a difference? > > I guess not really. We certainly got more relevant comments on our > own site. > > Like Quirk says, its important to reach out beyond the communities we > > already know. > > I think its important to have your own site so you control your > > archives and context in which to watch your videos. But go ahead and > > put them other places and see how it works out. > > > > For Youtube, I find that the most regularly popular ones are more just > > people talking into webcams. people have discussions, arguments, > > joking etc. its extremely social. > > > > So again its not an either or for me... > > what i appreciate is when Mikey and Wendy (in the video) send it to > > all their friends because we helped tell their story. Word starts > > spreading and information is exchanged. Wendy is now here at Maker's > > Faire(http://makerfaire.com/) and said she had 5 people come up to her > > to find out about her project in NM. That's the connection I seek. > > > > with any creator...i think its important to make stuff with the > > audience you want to reach in mind. Just throwing it on youtube and > > expecting something to have effect just seems harmless at best. > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > -- > > Here I am.... > > http://jaydedman.com > > > > Check out the latest project: > > http://pixelodeonfest.com/ > > Webvideo festival this June!!!! > > >
