OK, I see your point.  And I'll backup and say that I don't agree with
an organization requiring a creator to give up their right to
negotiate commercial compensation for their work.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think wikipedia is run by a non-profit foundation, but there is also
> a commercial arm called Wikia.
> 
> Here is a page that explains wikipedia's policy on this stuff in more
> detail:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content
> 
> So as other indicated, it boils down to their feeling that
> non-commercial restrictions make stuff not free enough to fulfil
> wikipedia's mission.
> 
> Im not sure about the whole contradiction thing, because those 2
> policies are related to quite different aims. It isnt that content of
> wikipedia itself should not be original content (eg your own words),
> but that it should not be original research, should be verifiable. We
> can clearly have a nice debate about the pro's and cons of these
> particualr wikipedia policies, eg the sorts of sources they accept was
> a particular annoyance to many, but I dont quite understand how it
> relates to the licensing issue. Because if I wasnt useless and I
> actually wrote some words about something on wikipedia, those words
> would be my own and Id be giving wikipedia the right to use them under
> a certain kind of free license, just as you are being asked to do with
> a photograph. Both the words and the photograph are original in the
> sense that we create them, and they dont want to rely on fair use to
> let others use them, but make sure we are giving them freely. Wheras
> the whole 'no original research' etc stuff is more about what the
> words actually say and the photo actually shows. Me drawing a picture
> of Lily Tomlin and submitting it to that article might be the
> equivalent of people adding their own original research to an article,
> Im not sure, and in definately not sure how it relates to the
> licensing issue.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "andrew michael baron"
> <andrew@> wrote:
> >
> > Wikipedia is a business. 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent via CrackBerry
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Enric" <enric@>
> > 
> > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:08:17 
> > To:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Wikipedia allow commercial CC media
> contribution requirement
> > 
> > 
> > I understand the concept of "Free as in Freedom" (I read the book and
> >  have read "The Cathedral and the Bazaar".) The contradiction I see is
> >  in disallowing original source contribution to Wikipedia articles
> >  while allowing commercial usage of original source material in
> >  Wikipedia without compensation.
> >  
> >  -- Enric
> >  
> >  --- In videoblogging@ <mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com, "Charles Iliya Krempeaux"
> >  <supercanadian@> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Hey Enric,
> >  > 
> >  > On 7/14/07, Enric <enric@> wrote:
> >  > 
> >  > [...]
> >  > 
> >  > > Why does Wikipedia require commercial use of someones contributed
> >  > > media work?
> >  > 
> >  > This reason has to do with some of the philosophy (or whatever you
> >  > want to call it) behind Wikipedia.
> >  > 
> >  > When they talk about Wikipedia being a Free encyclopedia...
they are
> >  > talking about "Freedom". (Not free as in gratis. Or free of
charge.)
> >  > 
> >  > Basically... long story short... the NC part of a CC license
makes it
> >  > non-Free (as in Freedom). Which is why they don't accept NC stuff.
> >  > 
> >  > (I can explain in more detail if you'd like.)
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > See ya
> >  > 
> >  > -- 
> >  > Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. <http://ChangeLog.
> <http://ChangeLog.ca/> ca/>
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > All the Vlogging News on One Page
> >  > http://vlograzor. <http://vlograzor.com/> com/
> >  >
> >
>


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