There seems to be another thing that skeptopaths engage in. They try to turn any LENR discussion into Andrea Rossi and his past. LENR had 14,700 replications before Andrea Rossi ever showed up on the scene.
And BTW, Wikipedia recently removed all the supposed convictions of fraud for Rossi, because the evidence could not support it under a very simple response by Rossi that they need to either put up or shut up, so they shut up. Rossi is convicted tax evader. That's it. No fraud convictions, if Wikipedia is to be believed. On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> wrote: > How to know you're dealing with a skeptopath: they won't read the > simplest evidence put in front of them. > > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=32#32 > > > To: *tacticalogic* > *"I'd be interested in a practical source of energy, and you keep > hawking this like it is. Where's the beef?"* > > Nah, you're just regurgitating the standard crawfishing that all > skeptopaths do when they can no longer claim that there is "no scientific > evidence" for cold fusion. > > First the refrain was "cold fusion experiments cannot be repeated". > > Then, when the researchers "did" improve the repeatability, the refrain > became "cold fusion experiments cannot be repeated fifty percent of the > time. > > Then, when repeatability increased past 50%, the refrain became "cold > fusion experiments cannot be repeated 100% of the time". > > Now, as some researchers repeatabiltity numbers approach 100%, the refrain > has become "the amount of power is miniscule, even if it "can" be repeated". > > So, the answer to your question is "the beef is still growing". And an > HONEST respondent would admit that. > > But in the not too distant future, I look forward to when LENR "does" > produce usable amounts of power. I wonder what you skeptopaths will say > then. > 32 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=32#32>posted on > *Wed > 27 Nov 2013 05:28:54 AM PST* by Wonder > Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=32>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.32;reftype=comment>| > To > 31 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#31> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=32> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=32>] > ------------------------------ > To: *Wonder Warthog* > *Nah, you're just regurgitating the standard crawfishing that all > skeptopaths do when they can no longer claim that there is "no scientific > evidence" for cold fusion.* > > Lemme guess. You can't show me the evidence to back that up, I'm supposed > to go find it. > 33 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=33#33>posted on > *Wed > 27 Nov 2013 05:34:11 AM PST* by > tacticalogic<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Etacticalogic/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=33>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.33;reftype=comment>| > To > 32 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#32> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=33> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=33>] > ------------------------------ > To: *tacticalogic* > *"Lemme guess. You can't show me the evidence to back that up, I'm > supposed to go find it."* > > Not quite. I'll give you two starting places. The first is George > Beaudette's book "Excess Heat". You can access this either by buying a copy > (Amazon)($), or via interlibrary loan (free or $ depending on the policies > of your local library. > > The second is Edmund Storm's collection of summaries of LENR research, > which can easily be found with Google search terms ("Edmund Storms" cold > fusion pdf). Most of the pdf's can be found at LENR-CANR.org. All are > available free. > > Now, why don't I give you direct links?? Because I have found that there > is no better litmus test about the honesty or lack of same of the various > skeptics that show up on these LENR threads. The skeptopaths will NOT > follow up. NOTHING will induce them to actually examine the evidence. The > honest skeptics do. > 34 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=34#34>posted on > *Wed > 27 Nov 2013 08:46:23 AM PST* by Wonder > Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=34>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.34;reftype=comment>| > To > 33 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#33> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=34> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=34>] > ------------------------------ > To: *Wonder Warthog* > > I’ve looked at LENR-CANR.org. It’s interesting research, but I can’t find > any research that’s actually producing measurable amounts of power to > justify the hyperbole surrouding the phenomenon. > > 35 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=35#35>posted on > *Wed > 27 Nov 2013 10:24:46 AM PST* by > tacticalogic<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Etacticalogic/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=35>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.35;reftype=comment>| > To > 34 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#34> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=35> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=35>] > ------------------------------ > To: *tacticalogic* > *"I’ve looked at LENR-CANR.org. It’s interesting research, but I can’t > find any research that’s actually producing measurable amounts of power to > justify the hyperbole surrouding the phenomenon."* > > LOL. Yeah, right. You're read all the thousands of papers at > LENR-CANR.org. SSUUUURREEE you have. > > If you proceed from either of the start points I gave you, you will find > the data quite easily, as the references to specific papers are well > documented in both of them. > > But you won't, will you. > 36 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=36#36>posted on > *Wed > 27 Nov 2013 01:36:37 PM PST* by Wonder > Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=36>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.36;reftype=comment>| > To > 35 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#35> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=36> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=36>] > ------------------------------ > To: *Wonder Warthog* > > No, I won’t go through those thousands of pages looking for the > documentation of a practical demonstration of the technology. That’s based > on an assumption that if any such documented demonstration had taken place > it wouldn’t be buried somewhere down in those thousands of pages, where it > could only be found by sifting through those thousands of pages. > > 37 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=37#37>posted on > *Wed > 27 Nov 2013 01:47:35 PM PST* by > tacticalogic<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Etacticalogic/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=37>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.37;reftype=comment>| > To > 36 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#36> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=37> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=37>] > ------------------------------ > To: *Kevmo* > *Nuclear energy is based on the use of fissile materials, and is not a > solution, because the stock of these materials is limited.* > > Not with breeder reactors. > 38 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#38>posted on > *Wed > 27 Nov 2013 06:57:26 PM PST* by > aruanan<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Earuanan/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=38>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.38;reftype=comment>| > To > 1 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#1> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=38> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=38>] > ------------------------------ > To: *tacticalogic* > *"No, I won’t go through those thousands of pages looking for the > documentation of a practical demonstration of the technology. That’s based > on an assumption that if any such documented demonstration had taken place > it wouldn’t be buried somewhere down in those thousands of pages, where it > could only be found by sifting through those thousands of pages."* > > LOL...you're precisely proving my point. Pure Skeptopath. > > Clue.....if you start with the Storm's freely available PDF writeups (any > of them), the information is nicely broken down according to what sort of > proof is available, including direct references to (at least the important) > papers on the subject. This includes heat, tritium production, > transmutation, correlation of heat to He4 production, and other. > > This means exactly that you don't "have" to "go through thousands of pages > of documentation looking.......", as the references are already sorted out > and documented. Storms has already done that. Beaudette's book likewise, > though a bit dated nowadays. > > And of course, most of the full papers are available at LENR-CANR.org. > > Route of easiest discovery....Beaudette first, then Storms for newer > information, then LENR-CANR for full papers. > > But you won't look at any of those, of course, because your real interest > is not in discovering how the world works, but bashing LENR. > 39 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=39#39>posted on > *Thu > 28 Nov 2013 04:50:15 AM PST* by Wonder > Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=39>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.39;reftype=comment>| > To > 37 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#37> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=39> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=39>] > ------------------------------ > To: *Wonder Warthog* > *LOL...you're precisely proving my point. Pure Skeptopath.* > > Clue...you throw "Skeptopath" around the way gays do with "homophobe". > 40 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=40#40>posted on > *Thu > 28 Nov 2013 04:56:27 AM PST* by > tacticalogic<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Etacticalogic/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=40>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.40;reftype=comment>| > To > 39 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#39> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=40> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=40>] > ------------------------------ > To: *tacticalogic* > *"Clue...you throw "Skeptopath" around the way gays do with > "homophobe"."* > > Only to those who prove themselves to be such by their own behavior on > these threads. But thanks for proving my points so fully and > wholeheartedly. As usual, total refusal to actually look at the published > information, and any comment to shunt attention to that behavior away the > one refusing. An exact fit to the phrase "pathological skepticism". > 41 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=41#41>posted on > *Thu > 28 Nov 2013 09:52:21 AM PST* by Wonder > Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=41>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.41;reftype=comment>| > To > 40 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#40> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=41> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=41>] > ------------------------------ > To: *Wonder Warthog* > *Only to those who prove themselves to be such by their own behavior on > these threads.* > > That's what the homos say, too. > 42 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=42#42>posted on > *Thu > 28 Nov 2013 09:54:33 AM PST* by > tacticalogic<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Etacticalogic/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=42>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.42;reftype=comment>| > To > 41 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#41> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=42> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=42>] > ------------------------------ > To: *tacticalogic* > *"That's what the homos say, too."* > > LOL. More proof. You'll say or do anything to avoid confronting the issue > of the existing data. > > Here is the difference between you skeptopaths and real skeptics. A real > science skeptic, given the references I have provided would not rest until > he/she had read them. > > A skeptopath will say or do anything to avoid reading them and change the > subject to avoid acknowledging their existence, much less actually read and > study them. > > Methinks the shoe fits you quite well. > > Enjoy your turkey, turkey. > 43 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=43#43>posted on > *Thu > 28 Nov 2013 03:49:43 PM PST* by Wonder > Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=43>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.43;reftype=comment>| > To > 42 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#42> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=43> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=43>] > > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> I'm growing weary of the same objections, over and over and over again on >> various internet sites. So I'm going to post each q&a here & just send >> links. >> >> >> >