> i hate going to parties in detroit because of the safty factor.  it is
> really scary.  i thought the southside of chicago was bad, but the east
> side of detroit is worse.  the time i almost got car jacked coming out of
> a party over off Grariot Ave and I-96 (could be 94) was quite possibly the
> worst party expirence of my life.  security guards wouldn't go into the
> parking area because they were scared they were going to get mugged like
> the people that were leaving were.  it was at some 2 story building with a
> small stage on the bottom floor.  i was told it may have been a VFW hall
> back in the day.
> but speaking of the old train station have there been any partys held
> there??  it seems like a good place to have parties if it was cleaned up
> just right.  from what i have read about it in Orbit it seems like a cool
> place.  it was in shambles though.  is it for sale??? if i had the cash i
> would buy it from the city...if i had the cash though.
> jeff
> 
>          
> 
> "THOU SHALT REMEMBER THE FUNK AND KEEP IT HOLY"
>               -George Clinton
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hugh G. Blaze [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 4:07 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject:      RE: [313] Fabulous Ruins of Detroit
> 
> But, hey, this urban decay certainly has left us with an interesting 
> playground in terms of the exotic locations where we get to enjoy "our" 
> music. The Packard Plant is a glaring example. Others are a huge (HUGE), 
> cathedral-like art deco lobby in of the David Whitney building in the 
> central business district (complete with a balcony on the second level 
> surrounding and overlooking the entire party), Several downtown office 
> locations around Capital Park (on Griswold, just west of Woodward and the 
> cbd) with breathtaking views of the skyline (it seems as though you could 
> reach out and grab the Ren Cen). Of course, there's the monolithic Train 
> Station on Michigan (which I believe is up on the ruins site) that makes
> for 
> a great post-dawn after party hangout, although I  wouldn't got there at 
> night. Nothing like chilling on the roof of a seventeen story skeleton as 
> the sun comes up over the eastern skyline, what a way to "cap" a great
> night 
> of partying in the city!
> 
> >
> >hey man
> >
> >can i get copies of these articles? for reasons i'm not even entirely
> aware 
> >of myself, the idea of
> >urban recovery interests me greatly.. maybe it's a creeping suspicion
> that 
> >all our cities are
> >heading that direction? i met that friend of y'alls who works for the
> urban 
> >planning department
> >there but never had a chance to talk to her. i first started travelling
> to 
> >detroit in '93, and i
> >can see what at first seem like improvements, though i wonder how much of
> 
> >it is merely cosmetic?
> >demolishing abandoned buildings is one thing, but as you said replacing
> the 
> >businesses they
> >represent in terms of socioeconomic infrastructure is another matter 
> >entirely. one of the things
> >about your city that captures my attention is the sense of grass-roots 
> >populist commitment to
> >improving things.. there's a sense of vitality that remains with me even 
> >after my initial naive
> >romanticized ideas have faded.. it's funny to think back about my first 
> >impressions.. the sense
> >that there was some homogenous militant techno underground in an
> abandoned 
> >industrial wasteland..
> >funny, eh? never stopping to consider that the mundane facts of life were
> 
> >as prevalent there as
> >anywhere, that people had day jobs, lives, careers, educations, family..
> of 
> >course there is a
> >vital music/arts community, and though Detroit is obviously the epicenter
> 
> >of a cultural phenomenon
> >which is still developing, and very dear to me, i think it's grown beyond
> 
> >mere geography despite
> >the parochialism displayed by some.. anyhow, my point was that to an 
> >admitted outsider it seems to
> >be on the way up, and I wonder how much of this is speculative capitalist
> 
> >investment by outside
> >interests or possibly some kind of state/federal grant program, or if
> it's 
> >genuinely an actual
> >investment in and by the community as a whole. i'm not sure if i'm making
> 
> >sense here? so yeh.. i'm
> >interested. ;p
> >
> >
> >
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