More on the ambient tip...but if you're interested in seeing how toneshifting can trick you into thinking something is there that isn't, take a listen to Steve Reich's "It's gonna rain".
Reich was an early experimental/ambient musician that would sometimes take spoken word stuff and chop it up into really repetitive segments..but in a very subtle way. Anyway, the repetitiveness starts to get ingrained in your head and before long, you start fogetting you are hearing words and they start to take on a more percussive nature. There are no fancy effects or anything, just repetitive speech which your mind starts to interpret as something different. It's very cool stuff...definitely bringing out a unique feature of our mind, but you can't really shake your ass to it like you can with the Surgeon =] t o double d set.go.recordings -----Original Message----- From: darw_n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:39 PM To: Gwendal Cobert; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Surgeon & tone-shifting Toneshifting (one word, for aesthetic reasons) is not a "style", it is a result... But generally, it only occurs with highly repetitive techno for anything complex or melodic becomes an oppressive agent... Simply put (I have to get to class), toneshifting is when the listener projects his/her own melody onto the repetition, rather then the music project out to the listener. The track, as simple as can be is merely a vehicle for whatever is in the listeners head, a compromise between the artist and the listener, a truly interactive music (and I contend a relative first in modern popular music)... The reason for the term "toneshift" is that the general trend amongst listeners is to change a monotonous single repeating tone or rhythm into a major/minor note shift, usually occurring in 2 bar patterns... sorry about the laymen's music terms... darw_n "create, demonstrate, toneshift..." http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwendal Cobert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 7:30 AM Subject: RE: [313] Surgeon & tone-shifting > Talking about which... some time ago I let an interesting thread slip > through, the one about "tone-shifting" - on Surgeon's Balance, one of my > favourite tracks remain Circles - one of the simplest things I've ever > heard, just a pounding, heavy percussive line with an alarm bell-like sound > increasing and decreasing in volume on top of it... would that qualify for > "tone-shifting music" ? > Gwendal > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Myke Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:07 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: [313] Surgeon > > > > > > Hey all, just thought I'd try and spark a little discussion > > here. I was > > going through some of my old vinyl and pulled out Surgeon's > > 'Comunication' > > album on Downwards from '96. DAMN, that's a KILLER album > > that I don't think > > I've heard anyone talk about yet. All tracks on this album > > are worthy of > > play. Wish he would do some work these days with that older > > feel to it, I > > love that stuff. Speaking of Surgeon albums, besides that and > > 'Basictonalvocabulary' has he released any other LP's?? > > Anyways Anthony > > Childs should be held up there with the Techno greats in my opinion. > > Pieces..... > > > > MM > > ______________________________________________________________ > > ___________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
