my thoughts exactly.


On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, M. Todd Smith wrote:

> If you learned to DJ by counting then you missed the point, DJ'ing is about
> listening not counting.  Just because you don't count doesn't mean you
> aren't aware of the beat.  When people dance they are very aware of the beat
> (some even stop if the DJ brings in an offbeat mix), I know when I dance I
> don't count, and it would by my fervent belief that no one else does either.
> 
> The best DJ's I have ever met can pick up a record they have never heard
> before and throw it down like they've owned it forever.  This is the
> intuitive knowledge of musical structure gained through listening and paying
> attention to music.
> 
> Perhaps the reason behind your disconcertation with Isotope 127 is that you
> are internally trying to count, instead of listening, and feeling the
> rhythm.  Just my 2 cents
> 
> Todd
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> To: "Hillegonda Rietveld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [313] Re: Mixing and musical structure
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> 
> > hello,
> >
> > I guess it all depends on what you mean by internalizing. If you do not
> > count time, or are unware of it, chances are you probably suck. If you
> > can count time and be aware of bar changes without it taking most of the
> > space in your conscious mind you are probably better off. It used to be
> > that I would have to use my fingers to count the bars while counting
> > time, then I counted them verbally in my head, and nowadays in the back
> > of my mind I just see that bars coming and going while I think about
> > other things. You are both right in a sense. You have to be aware of
> > time, but it cannot be all that you are aware of.
> >
> > I saw isotope 217 play a month or so ago, their structures were alot
> > more complicated than the usual dance stuff. I had a very difficult time
> > keeping up with everything that was going on, it was very pleasant
> > actually, been a long time since I have heard something that made me
> > feel absolutely bewildered. why does music seem less magical the more
> > you understand how it works?
> >
> > I will shut up now.
> >
> > take care,
> > Mike
> >
> > Hillegonda Rietveld wrote:
> > >
> > > Hillegonda;
> > > Yes, it helps to know about musical structure before embarking on
> mixing -
> > > how otherwise can one distinguish beats, bars and sections?
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > > - wut? you actually just need to be able to count.
> > > -----------------------------
> > >
> > > I hope you're joking - what do you count to? 3? 4? one bar? 15? counting
> is
> > > for nippers in toddler trunks who are in learning stage - when you
> > > actually DJ, you need to have internalised the structure and other
> aspects
> > > of your musical selection. Only then can you play from the heart, be the
> > > music and play with flow rather than act out some sad calculator without
> > > direction.
> > >
> > > To use a parallel example: if you are in the middle of some busy
> traffic,
> > > do you count distance, speed and accelleration when crossing the road or
> > > overtaking a car? I hope not, by the time you'd rationally achieved
> that,
> > > you'd be dead.
> > >
> > > Hillegonda.
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