> >BUT, Detroit techno is indeed a little different in that it is very much
> >tied to jazz and blues, almost equaled to...
>
> in what way?


The Detoit's appoach to techno is one of improvization and "soul" (such as
with Jazz), whereas, the more european sounds, or to be specific, the sounds
in which richie hawtin is king at, is more super-structured and bound to
presition and subtlety.  Look at how Detroit techno lovers are in love with
tricks and such, very similar to say a drum solo on a jazz band.

Its not a similar sound, rather it is a simliar approach between detroit
techno and jazz...


> >But the essence of techno is simplicity and repetition, it is the base if
> >you will to all other forms of music...
>
> i always thought that the essence of the music was the feeling it had,


Well, I attest that things have changed with techno...

I feel that what techno has tapped into is the feeling of the listener, the
projection outwards of the listener.  Other music tells you what to feel...

OK, before that stament gets misconstrued, let me draw examples...

The modern art movement, something in which my family was very involved in
(to give credibility to my statements), was based on the notion that the
viewer of the art was the one to add the emotion, not totally the artist.
To look at a giant canvas painted all yellow is not the artist telling you
what to feel, but rather, it is an invitation to the viewer to add
*whatever* emotion they so desire.  To look at this all yellow canvas, one
person might cry, while another might laugh, and neither can say what the
artist was feeling.  However, in contrast, you look at a Monet, or say a
Rembrant, you can hardly make your emotions go in whatever direction you
want-  In short order, look at a Rembrant, and you feel generally what he
felt.  Look at a painting of solid color, and you have no way of knowing the
emotions of the artist, you are the one who matters, your emotions defines
the painting...

Repetitious techno follows the same thing.  It doesn't tell you what to
feel, or even what the artist was feeling, (aside from basics, such as
intensity or calmness - like either a yellow canvas, or a blue canvas), you,
the listener, is the one that adds the defining emotion, one person
listening may cry, while his freind laughs.  Listen to trance, or some more
complex detroit techno, and you feel exactly what the artist intended you to
feel...

BTW, this is the toneshift theory...

a single repetitious sound starts changing because it is your mind that is
wandering and adding melody, you are shifting, in any way you want, the
tones in your head...

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
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