On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Jayson B. wrote: > That past email was simply to see how many of you would explode when you saw > the prog in front of techno. > > Wasn't meant to offend or spam anyone. > > But simply for the sake of arguement, what's so bad about the word > progressive?
Nothing wrong with that word. It's just that I've gone through about 700 unread 313-mails, and I would like to comment on _pointless_ mailing to this list. These matters have been discussed in the list several times before (and I think this mail comes in a bit late), but I think it's appropriate to remind people occasionally, especially when new people are joining the list. It seems that somedays people just have too much time on their hands, and those people enjoy stirring things up a bit and then watching other people, as on this list, to waste their time in pointless conversations and arguments like "my music is better than yours". These people are called trolls. They appear with different names, email addresses etc. and when kicked off the list they may reappear after a while under a new address. They are very subtle in their actions, they have at least a partial knowledge of 313-related music (and _unrelated_ as well) and with that they attack the thing we love. Common trolling mail could be something like "DJ/producer X's latest work sucks because X has HIV and it has sprouted into AIDS. I know this to be true because X didn't appear to play in the event Y, and my cousin works in a hospital where X gets the treatment for the disease, and one day he came to me and said 'look where that music, raves and drugs gets you into!' and explained the whole situation." The best solution for trolls is to ignore them. They live with the attention they and their mails get. It's the same thing as it is with spamming: when you get a spam with lines reading something like "to be removed from this list send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" To mail to that address is the _last_ thing you want to do because once they recieve a reply from you the spammers will know that there's an active email account, "let's keep on spamming there!!" So, before making a possibly angry, hasty reply, sit back, take a deep breath, read the recieved mail once again and then decide whether to respond at all. My point was _not_ to name Jayson B. as a troll, but I'm simply sick and tired of pointless discussion. I know, I know, procmail or any other good mail sorting program is a decent solution, but I don't like the idea of modifying it's settings every other day. Now, please read the lines of the mail I replied to, and perhaps couple more of other "the X is Y'r than Z" -mails that have been clogging my 313-folder. Do I make any sense? I'm not trying to offend anyone, but if you feel like I have, please, let's continue the discussion privately. J Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.netppl.fi/~sandman "Do not allow yourself to be programmed. For once, in your life, take control. Take control." - UR