uhh, no.  no, no, and no.

the "24-bit" sound is NOT kept when pressed to vinyl, because the quality of sound is only as good as the weakest link, and that would be the quality of the vinyl press itself.

the speakers don't do any conversions. the D/A converter in your electronics will do that (most D/A converters are in the cd player's circuits itself; if it has an analog output (RCA, XLR, 1/4", whatever) then you know the conversion already happened.

digital reproduction is 'nearly' perfect. the level of distortion produced by quantization and filtering is so small it's not even funny. worry more about speaker distortions.

what this has to do with 313 i don't know, but it had to be said.  :)

Mike

From: "Joel Reitzloff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "--autopilot--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are. your answers
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:23:38 -0400

actually, the machines producing your favorite sounds are producing AT
LEAST, and DONT ARGUE 24bit sound, sometimes even at 48000 or higher khz.
when this is mixed down professionally and PRESSED (NOT BURNED, DIGITALLY)
to vinyl, that sound is kept, because of it's format. speakers are analog,
and they must put out analog sound. therefor, when your CD plays, the data
is converted by the speaker so it can play. when you burn higher quality
music to a cd, the quality is automatically dithered to 16bit, sometimes
with adverse effects. the vinyl produces a sound for the speakers, that
digital can only emulate, and can for the most part only reach 16bit
quality. say you like the quality of the cleanest CD you've ever heard, now
imagine TWICE that quality! kinda hard.. huh maybe that's why people tend to
go crazy to the vinyl
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From: "--autopilot--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: [313] vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are.


> >I think alot of the quality of the audio goes out the window after
digital
> >quantizantion.
>
> Something I don't understand here - so much music is made with samplers
and
> other digital devices, so presumably the sound coming out is quantised to > 16-bit/44.1KHz by definition anyway - how can writing that quantised sound
> onto vinyl suddenly give it a better dynamic range / quality ?
>
> I suspect there's a bit of retro-fetishism going on here (not that there's
> anything wrong with that - just that vinyl rules for reasons other than
> sound quality).
>
> Debates r.e. the quality of mp3 files are mainly irrelevant at present
since
> the primary point of mp3 files is swapping, i.e. you take what you can get
> in terms of bitrate. Sure, higher bitrates sound better, but most extant
> files are lower bitrate. Since it's a lossy compression system there will
> always be a difference, and the louder the P.A. the more audible that
> difference will be. Personally I'm not ready to make the switch yet,
though
> I do play with WAVs off a puter.
>
>            :-) (-:
>            Ash
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