Yeah but who says 'The Scene' is ruined. It's a fact: Since the 70's whatever party scene you're into has taken a dive across the board over the past 20 years. That Detroit 'Black Thang' ain't ever going to happen again I don't think unless America as to face something like WW III to kick off the collective party scene and get people's minds really motivated. Also, I don't think the new generations are as social as they used to be.
Poing being, I don't think there is any one thing that's screed things up, it's alot of different social variable. In adition, the music isn't nearly as good as it used to be. I hate to say it but Tonic's got excellent PARTY music. Some of that other stuff is to complicated and weird. Although I love it to death, I can certainly see why it would draw a real party crowd. You can only take things so far. Truth is, although, I'm going downstairs to spin some straight up 140BMP techno, I'd rather be at a party at Tonic or Club Network than at a techno genre party. Partying to me is about much more than the music; it's about a happy vibe. This type of vibe was born out of more mainstream stuff but has been lost with the creation of scenes which don't promote partying, they promote egos. I'm done. Onward Sequencers -Miles -----Original Message----- From: Pryor, Ryan N [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 5:15 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: FW: [313] RE:dodgy Canton promoters How does a thread about Fred dealing with shady promoting/promoters relate to certain races of people ruining a movement they did not start? White kids did not ruin the scene, the fact that it became mainstream destroyed it. Johnny bringing his best friends,neighbors locker partner to a party ruined it. bar sluts and Ginos on E ruined it. $$$ ruined it. FOX2. MTV. whatever money is the root of all evil for the curious= www.planetraver.com -----Original Message----- From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] RE:dodgy Canton promoters White does not necessarily = mainstream lets not get nastey about this, seems like this thread is about dead. chana >From: "Mike Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [313] RE:dodgy Canton promoters >Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 19:21:05 -0400 > >you know how all the stright white people got into Disco in the late 70's >and then Disco got really lame... > > >>From: "Roger John Lesinski Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: 313@hyperreal.org >>Subject: [313] RE:dodgy Canton promoters >>Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:48:38 -0400 (EDT) >> >>Hello, sorry to drag this topic on, but what the hell is planet raver? I >>think >>the Detroit scene has hit an all time low. Was this supposed to be a >>motor >>cross raver event? Just when you though the parties around could not get >>any >>trashier. No offense to Fred with these comments, but this whole thing >>sounded >>retarded. I think this is a prime example of how cheesy the whole scene >>has >>gotten. >> >> >> >These people booked me, signed a contract, never paid the deposit, never >> >return phone calls, encountered problems with city officials and >>canceled >> >the event. >> > >> >If they had any class they would have forfeited the deposit instead of >>just >> >screwing up my scheduling and finances. And they still haven't taken >>down >> >their website. >> > >> >http://www.techmotofest.com/lineup.html >> > >> >I repeat I will NOT be appearing @ this event. >> > >> >Chuck Shattlerow >> >Planet Honda Racing >> >44600 Michigan Ave. >> >Canton, MI 48185 >> > >> >R.J. Johnson >> >Planet Raver Productions >> >49742 Plymouth Way >> >Plymouth, MI 48170 >> > >> >Never trust a production company with the word "raver" in it, no matter >>how >> >much money they offer you. >> > >> > >> >Telepathic regards, >> >The Kooky Scientist >> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]