... My brother is more the sound technologist but, I do know enough to know that what that guy said is mostly tosh - to use an English expression. You can prove it yourself by listening to Stevie Wonder's 'The Secret Life of Plants' ... that's a record which is over 20 years old. Listen to the 'last' track - sorry the title escapes me right now. (There are four sides but side A is not backed with B etc, so it's not certain what's 'first', 'last' etc.) The disco 'synthy' one which I'm sure thousands have wanted to sample/remix etc ... That is a hi-tech funk track. There's no other term for it. It's also pretty weird. With off-the-wall-effects. My copy was not new. I don't know how many people have had it before me. It sounds used, true, but not to the point of spoiling my listening pleasure ... oh, and it doesn't jump.
>-----Original Message----- >From: Alexandres Lugo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:35 PM >To: Odeluga, Ken >Subject: RE: [313] Shari Vari Release Schedule > > >"The technology for making records has not changed since the 50's. Digital >production techniques are making it difficult to maintain fidelity when >transferring to vinyl. People are not making tracks that will sound good on >records anymore." > >I was fortunate enough to hear about a 2 hour discourse (almost a rant ;) >about the subject from our nameless masterer. I think he may have a valid >point. He feels that a lot of digital production techniques (stereo >expanding to the point of no return, certain wacky effects, we know what >they are, etc.) sound great when listening to it digitally on our computers >and CD's. We have to understand that there is much more room to play in the >digital domain. Not so in records. Again, these are all his thoughts. > >I won't go so far as to say that this may have caused the mastering >problems, maybe the equipment is antiquated, I don't know. I'm just trying >to give perspective from the horse's mouth by proxy. I think he has been >pretty frustrated as of late and he did go on and on about a project he was >working on that he could not tone down enough to keep the needle from doing >its own dance on wax. No idea who he was talking about, I pretty much let >him vent :) > >My favorite quote in the 2 hours: > >"People like Mike Banks know how to produce a track to sound good on a >record." > >Classic. > >Peace, >Alex >www.fulcruminn.net > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:02 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org >Subject: RE: [313] Shari Vari Release Scheduled > > >That company has a lot of history in the D and a lot of friends ... but >despite that I doubt they've ever really made a great deal of money so they >still more or less master today as they've always done ... It all >comes down >to (someone) needing to put their money where there mouth is, rather than >merely waxing lyrical (excuse the pun) about Detroit and it's excellent, >highly-credible and sincere mastering company (which has pioneered at least >one feature on vinyl, which I've never seen anywhere else before) and doing >nothing to stop it sliding into oblivion. > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Frank Zappa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 5:27 AM >>To: Mike Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Re: [313] Shari Vari Release Schedule >> >> >>yea, i have heard that most peoples promos have some >>sort of technical problem....lot of them skip . my >>brothers copy does some strange stuff in the middle of >>the ADULT mix, it like cuts out and has this real >>frazzled out sounding part.....i on the other hand >>lucked out completly my copy playes GREAT no problems >>no skips. and yes i totally agree with you, the STRAND >>mix is so good! can't wait to hear the gigolo >>mix..... >> >>Michael Mitchell >>www.renegaderhythms.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >>--- Mike Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am glad to say that I got promo's of this from >>> Keith awhile back. >>> Definitely a release to keep an eye out for. I think >>> the best track on there >>> is the Strand Remix, but then again Mike Grant's Mix >>> took it into a totally >>> unexpected deep house direction, and as usual, Adult >>> can do no wrong. >>> >>> I can vouch for Keith's mastering problems as well. >>> I put three loonies and >>> all the tone arm weight on the A and C sides and the >>> needle would still not >>> track. He is not the only guy in town who has been >>> having problems with an >>> un-named mastering company. It is a shame, because >>> it is definitely a worthy >>> release and it should have seen the light of day >>> sooner. >>> >>> Take care, >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> >From: Frank Zappa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >To: 313@hyperreal.org >>> >Subject: Re: [313] Shari Vari Release Schedule >>> >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:34:54 -0800 (PST) >>> > >>> >well i know its going to be a bit for the record , >>> but >>> >i got a copy from a friend for x-mas.... i think it >>> >will be worth the wait....there are sooooo many >>> good >>> >mixes on this re-mix....i think my favorite is the >>> >scan 7 mix....the adult mix....marty bonds >>> >mix....ectomorph and of course mike grants mix, but >>> >all are very nice....detroit did it again in my >>> >opinion.....we just brought scan 7 to perform >>> live >>> >out here in portland oregon recently and i was >>> hoping >>> >he would play it live , but he did'nt ...anyway for >>> >those who have not heard it yet ....run out and buy >>> it >>> >right away.............. GREAT RE-MIXES OF A GREAT >>> >RECORD!!! keep em coming detroit >>> > >>> >michael mitchell >>> >www.renegaderhythms.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >--- Puzzlebox Records <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> > > Hello everyone we at Puzzlebox would like to >>> first >>> > > wish everyone a great >>> > > New year. And much success for 2002 >>> > > Shari Vari 20002 Remixes and Original mix >>> release >>> > > has unfourtanetly been >>> > > held up do to Mastering Problems. We regret the >>> set >>> > > back but we are >>> > > moving ahead with a mid feb release date. We NOW >>> > > KNOW HOW OTHER LABELS >>> > > FEEL like Southern Outpost, Twilight 76, and >>> Moods >>> > > and Grooves. 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