had absolutely no idea that Japanese Telecom was Drexcya in any way shape or form...
jeff > -----Original Message----- > From: Benn Glazier [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:43 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] What's in a name? > > Is it not interesting that two of the Drexciyan personas are 'from' > countries that have been defeated by the American or American allies, that > > is Dopplereffekt and Japanese Telecom. > > Sure, the Nazi nation was an evil dictatorship. Something else that comes > > to mind is that the artwork on Gesamtkunstwerk has symbols of the USSR and > > China depicted. Two more countries which had been 'against' the USA for > many years. > > Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't 'Gesamtkunstwerk'' > translate to 'Synthesis of the arts' and in this case, I'd say the > definition of 'synthesis' would potentially be it's philosophical one as > opposed to it's general or chemical definition. > > Also, think about how the US has treated the American-Indian. Then again, > > I could be wrong, the Drexciyans after all might just be white boy fruit > farmers making jelly/jam in the mid-west. > > Some interesting points of discussion to think about. > > However, at the end of the day, who says Drexciya = Dopplereffekt = > Japanese Telecom. > > > > royal:one: - benn glazier > http://www.royaltech.net - http://dj.royaltech.net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 61 (0) 413 316 618 > r720 royal exchange nsw 1225 australia > > > > > At 10:27 04/02/2002 +0100, Gwendal Cobert wrote: > >Well, I have their Gesamtkunstwerk CD, and I was a bit disturbed by the > >imagery, but it is just "too much" not to be second-degree... as far as I > >know, the most extreme far-right doesn't go that far in their slogans and > >imagery, right ? plus, I don't really see how could a guy with such ideas > >fit in the Gigolos stable ? > >Gwendal > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:13 AM > > > To: 313@hyperreal.org > > > Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? > > > > > > > > > Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi > > > symbols on > > > them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which > > > appaered on the > > > Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him > > > why he named > > > one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to > > > sterilize the > > > population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly > > > disabled had to be > > > sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that > > > time on i always > > > had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track. > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller / > > > > Müller is quite > > > > a common name in Germany, isn't it ? > > > > Gwendal > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM > > > > > To: '313@hyperreal.org' > > > > > Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real > > > > > name, well i > > > > > hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members > > > > > i will burn my > > > > > copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head > > > > > Gestapo, the > > > > > secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is > > > > > reposible for one of > > > > > the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the > > > > > persons (together > > > > > with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key > > > > > components in the > > > > > deportation and then extermination of the Jews. > > > > > > > > > > Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he > > > > > disappeared and was > > > > > never brought to justice! > > > > > > > > > > To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the > > > > > Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why > > > > > to use Mueller > > > > > as an alias... > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in > > > > > > Jan-Feb Jockey Slut > > > > > > Magazine, UK). > > > > > > Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a > > > > > > feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of > > > > > > this? The name was > > > > > > Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the > > > > > > writer's part? Now > > > > > > that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me, > > > > > > why the first > > > > > > attempt to post this was barred from the list .... This time > > > > > > I don't mention > > > > > > the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already > > > > > > out there too. > > > > > > Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
