No you haven't understood the situation... Laurent is talking about things that actually HAS changed since 9/11. He is NOT relaying false information... He would know since he has gone through this process both before and after... What he gave was an explanation to those who were planning on seeing him on his tour. It is quite obvious to pretty much everyone but you, that YOU are the one that doesn't get it... Have you ever tried to get a temporary work visa as a performer in the US? Before and after 9/11?.. Excuse my language, but eph you!
-----Original Message----- From: Sylvia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 11:36 AM To: 313 Hyperreal. Org Subject: RE: (313) OT (was: Laurent Garnier's troubles) To all who replied, Let me tell you that I completely understood the situation. What I tried to explain, but BAU some of you jumped to fast on their keyboard, is only and only about the process between France and US, so people who were talking about other countries are out from my point. Then I do not think artists should mention what happens between France and US, we have enough with the media propaganders on both side of the Atlantic, I maintain it does not make sense to me to rely the media and gave all these false details based on Iraq " war" situation. Laurent Garnier first sentence starts with : "Since the Iraq conflict..." then I demonstrated in my reply, giving factual examples that what he said based on his first postulate is false, I mean - people should reread my mail - the process described by Laurent Garnier are wrong in the way where these processes are not new and are in place for ages now, my main point was - it has been always tough to go through the US immigration like I said, and that's nothing to do with Irak "war" or whatever this guy mentioned. True that the security increased in airports, it's more tight but is not only in US, it's everywhere the same, and that applies to anyone for residents, for non residents, citizens non citizens, for tourists, for ..... for everybody in France or in US, that's it. To finish with that when in your hometown it's not better than anywhere else for non citizens, people should speak in restrained terms or to mention at least it's not better in their own country, I am an immigrant in France and I know exactly what I'm talking about it......but send through F com mailing list such assumptions which I maintain are not true, because these assumptions are not something new, is not a mature attitude, but a nationalist behaviour. |-----Original Message----- |From: Cyhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 3:00 AM |Cc: 313 Hyperreal. Org |Subject: Re: (313) OT (was: Laurent Garnier's troubles) | | |I might be wrong on that point, I think I got inside the ambassy in |1996 for my first visa, not 1999 ! (that's a long time ago, it's |blurred in my mind !) anyway :) | |and laurent is said to be a cool guy by friends of mine who know him, |so... | |Cyhl wrote: | |> |> I then want to point that you're making false claims: for example, |> there was a time after 1996 where you were actually going inside the |> ambassy to get a visa, you were able to talk to to people etc. (I did |> it in 1999, for example); | | | |
