i'll never forget the first time i heard a bootleg of joy division performing "ceremony". this was after it was already my favorite new order song. i felt like i was listening to a ghost.
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Phonopsia wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maarten Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:58 PM > Subject: (313) new order. > > > > Can I find some information on the net covering the link between new order > > and detroit techno? > > Aha! One of my favorite subjects, and for a long time my favorite band. I > think they were at least as important to Detroit as a lot of the other > synth-pop-type bands of that era, like Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, Erasure, > and the less-pop ones too. Of all of those that I named, New Order was > arguably the moodiest, so you could follow that to mean that they were one > of the more influential synth-pop bands, with the way the Detroit sound > developed. Of course, you have to take into account industrial stuff, house, > italo, etc as well, but I don't think you can discount their importance, > although it would be hard to quantify I suspect, other than referencing old > playlists maybe? > > > And what new order albums should I buy as an introduction to the band? > > > Substance is an amazing compilation of revised (remixed and often extended) > classics + rarities, and a great broad introduction, but not an album per > se. All of it is good though, and getting recommendations will largely just > reflect the listener's taste. Me, I love almost all of it - with Brotherhood > and post-Technique stuff not quite living up to the normal standards in my > mind. Low Life has great moments, and is coherent throughout (unlike > Brotherhood IMHO - still love a couple of tracks on there though). Technique > is brilliant, and some of the best dancefloor stuff was on that album. > Personally, I'd put Power Corruption & Lies at the top of your list, in > terms of proper albums (f*ck 'Blue Monday', I'm talking about '5 8 6' and > 'Your Silent Face' - I suspect this is the one you mean, Sean?), and > Movement would be a close second for me (although more along the lines of > Joy Division than later New Order). Also make sure to get Factus, for the > best versions of Everything's Gone Green and Temptation. Rawer than the > cleaned up versions on Substance, which I also love, but ain't quite the > same for me. > > Oh - you'll also probably like the Fire Island remix on the Regret 12" (off > of 'Republic'), although that album has not stood the test of time as well > as most of their other work. Never heard the latest one. Couldn't bring > myself to taint the memory. > > I'll caution, that some of the poppier stuff may seem a bit saccharine on a > first listen, but it may grow on you - may not. I wonder what I would think > of it if I first heard it today??? > > Tristan > ======= > Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > Music: http://www.mp313.com > Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
