Hyperreal.org actually took it's name from an old Shamen song from the late 80's or early 90's. Now the Shamen most likely took it from Baudillard, but Brian Behlendorf, the guy who started hyperreal named it from their song.
As for origins of Hyperreal.org, there's 2 great texts on their site that goes over the history up to today: http://hyperreal.org/info/mission.html and http://hyperreal.org/info/history.html As to how the 313 list came to live there, well, the list owner, George Smiley decided to have it listed here, as Brian offerred Hyperreal's resources to many people who needed it back in the early 90's (as he still does today), but back then, the Internet was very different then it is today, we didn't have groups.yahoo.com and such offering their services. In fact, many people on had to pay for each email they recieved, which then brought up even more posts about noise, as people were paying for their noise then ;) Glad it's just my delete button and not my bank account... Cheers, Dave > The French social theorist Jean Baudrillard is responsible for theorizing > the concept of the "hyperreal," most notably in his book "Simulacra and > Silmulation." If you saw the first Matrix movie, you may have noticed > that there is a fake book with this title which turns out to be a > container for hiding things and not a book at all. The following is an > excerpt from Baudrillard's text where he speaks about the concept of the > hyperreal: > > "By crossing into a space whose curvature is no longer that of the real, > nor that of truth, the era of simulation is inaugurated by a liquidation > of all referentials—worse: with their artificial resurrection in the > systems of signs, a material more malleable than meaning, in that it lends > itself to all systems of equivalences, to all binary oppositions, to all > combinatory algebra. It is no longer a question of imitation, nor > duplication, nor even parody. It is a question of substituting the signs > of the real for the real, that is to say of an operation of deterring > every real process via its operational double, a programmatic, metastable, > perfectly descriptive machine that offers all the signs of the real and > short-circuits all its vicissitudes. Never again will the real have the > chance to produce itself—such is the vital function of the model in a > system of death, or rather of anticipated resurrection, that no longer > even gives the event of death a chance. A hyperreal henceforth sheltered > from the imaginary and from any distinction between the real and the > imaginary leaving room only for the orbital recurrence of models and for > the simulated generation of differences." > > I don't know if Hyperreal got was influenced by Baudrillard but it seems > likely. His concepts had some influence in the art world and academia for > a time. > > ~David > ---------- Original Message ------------- > Subject: Re: (313) This list > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:12:50 -0500 > From: lisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > hehe - this leans well towards something I'm gonna post shortly. ;) > but since you've posted this ... I was wondering about the origins of > hyperreal.org and how the 313 list came to live there. hyperreal = more > real than real? pushing/redefining 'what is real' perhaps? > > hmmm ... > > Lisa > >
