You're all far too bloody defensive. If you would defend your right to a free
and open media marketplace as strong as you defend against a perceived slight
against Matt's efforts then this would never be a problem. As John Osselaer
previously said:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>The set is from Switch Studios which I guess is a radio station in Brussels,
>
>
> ---> That's national radio for ya. Studio Brussel is the youth channel of the
national radio. Switch runs every Friday and Saturday, I believe from 8pm till
the early morning hours. We've had quality dance shows on national radio from
the early nineties on (Teknoville) ...
>
> John
"National radio". One more time, "national radio", which means that the entire
country is exposed. Granted it's a small country, probably the same size as the
Chicago market that Matt services, but it's the idea.
"National radio" is more "mainstream" than "community radio" is all that I said.
I NEVER slighted "community radio". If you have proof of a counter-example
then I'll concede.
Damn...
Anyway, then Matt got all defensive and made comments like this:
"It's time people took community radio seriously as an alternative to the
ClearChannel near-monopoly of programming."
I disagree, I think it's time people took seriously the idea of PREVENTING or
BREAKING-UP the "ClearChannel near-monopoly of programming."
And everyone who suggests "well we have community radio and the internet blah
blah" is being disingenuous, because that is a position of RETREAT, and the
englobulators will not stop and let you have community radio and internet radio
all to yourselves, they HAVE to grow otherwise their share price stagnates and
they can no longer raise money from the markets, so they WILL GROW into your
nice little world, or close your little world down.
Anyway, Matt, don't be so defensive, what you're doing is great, and you know
it's appreciated, just by proof of the amount of support you get. Nothing would
make me happier than for you to become syndicated and available across the
country, nationaly, but until then you're a niche within a niche, just like I am.
Tosh
--
McIntosh Cooey - Twelve Hundred Group LLC - http://www.1200group.com/
Robert Taylor wrote:
I know lots of people over in the UK who listen to the show on the net and
not all of them are 'heads' - I play the show in the office/library - my
colleagues who usually listen to Audioslave and U2 appreciate it and visitors
to the library ask what's playing so regularly that maybe I should get a 'now
playing' sign to put on the hatch!
-----Original Message----- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 2:14 AM To: 313 Cc: Tosh Cooey;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Radio Fries - Don't Tread
On Me
On Feb 7, 2005, at 7:35 AM, Tosh Cooey wrote:
downloaded matt mcqueen's latest radio show (a counter-argument to your
claim that 'this' would never happen on american radio), a fabrice lig
mix, an old mixmaster morris mix
--> Matt's a great guy, but he's playing for a very very very small niche
in a very very very small niche market, not exactly mainstream.
Somehow i missed this thread, sorry for the late reply Tosh. I appreciate
the olive branch, but that attitude cracks me up. there was once a time in
the US when people probably said House music was very very small niche when
it was on the air here 15-20 years ago and guess what... it fired up a world
phenomenon that is still a part of the dance music culture you celebrate
daily. if you said that back then to the people Djing on WBMX or Hotmix 5
or whatever, yeah, they could have said "why bother?" -- at that time it was
niche, they were playing weirdo italo disco that was already 5 years old to
US radio audiences. they played disco after disco was "dead". but but they
made a difference instead, they mixed it up and did their own music and
called it house, those radio shows fundamentally shaped the future of
electronic dance music forever. It was the same way with Mojo. A lot of
what he played was pop, sure, but he mixed it with a lot of local detroit
techno records that people then wanted to check out, get interested in, or at
least listen to religiously on his his show. These were major market
commercial stations! Now, what has happened in the last 10 years with Clear
Channel and the homogenization of radio programming options absolutely sucks,
sure, but has only made the independent stations that much more fired up to
keep doing what they're doing. it hasn't devastated the airwaves... yet
We're broadcasting in chicago on friday nights, prime time 9:30pm - 12:30
am... how you define a "very very small niche" but to me that's a HUUUGE
opportunity to turn people on. We've had calls from as far as 50 miles
north of the city who can pick us up on a clear night, and last I checked we
were the 3rd or 4th largest city in the US. Think of how dense the
population is in chicago. Having a broadcasting tower is a the great
equalizer. It's time people took community radio seriously as an alternative
to the ClearChannel near-monopoly of programming. Everyone in the US who just
sits on the outside of radio and takes pot-shots, have you ever scanned your
dial for community or university stations, many of whom still truly CARE
about the formatting, are non-commerical or ethical in how they conduct
business, present alternative viewpoints to the mainstream stations, and work
true musical diversity into their programming time? Many major markets have
these. There are some amazing radio programs in NYC too. Here in chicago
you can hear polish folk music to punk to salsa programming to underground
hip-hop, you can find it on the air here. When Bill VanLoo was going to
school in Michigan's Upper Peninsula, way up in the remote parts of the
snow-buried rural land, he was pumping out detroit techno week after week.
In Chicago I can think of a few other stations besides WNUR in chicago who
have awesome programming on other nights. Is it mainstream? Only if you hit
people squarely in the ears who had NO IDEA there were still good radio
programs in the US, people click around. I'm not out to change the world and
have techno on every radio station, but I am trying to turn people on to
quality electronic music, one listener at a time.
And i'm not even getting into the webcasting and site downloads.. i check the
logs and we've got people from 50+ countries regularly listening. Community
radio in the US is powerful, were' on the ghetto end of the dial, but don't
sit there across the world and give us a little pat on the head. :)
peace -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
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