Well yes, saying that there's nothing new under the sun is a strong argument, 
but it's a double edged sword since the it can be applied to any forms of 
music, including the ones that you hold dear.

Another way of looking at it is whether a genre has tracks that have 'soul'. 
Personally I think examples of this can be found in all genres, but there was 
certainly a huge amount of 'soul' to be found in D&B at times. These were 
tracks made with passion, that aroused the listeners to a frenzy. They 
definitely had something. On the other hand there was a lot of rubbish as well, 
but shoddy journeyman production lacking in conviction can be found in all 
genres.

A quick list of 'soulful' (in the broadest sense) D&B tunes off the top of my 
head:

Leviticus - The Burial
DNA - DNA
Krust - Brief Encounter
Doc Scott - Far Away
Dillinja - The Angels Fell
Studio Pressure
DMS & The Boneman X - Sweet Vibration
L Double & Liccle D - Hail H.I.M.
+ plenty more

> a large percentage, of these so-called "innovators" of this jungle/d&b
> sound which is somehow lauded as some sort of groundbreaking tackle, were
> hardcore or happy hardcore producers. now alot of jungle producers do
> garage, r&b whatever the next big thing is.

If I made music, I'd hate it to be described as 'groundbreaking'. It 
immediately puts a 'sell by' date on it. There has to be something more to it 
than that for it to really last...

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