Ken i wasn't being churlish. i consider the world of commercial music and awards nights as one big giant pile of wombat poop. i sort of thought that on this matter i was vaguely on the same wavelength as others on this list, underground resistance and others interested in independent/underground dance music.
the time for techno to get the recognition and dues it deserves was 1989 and it did - millions around the world danced their asses off to detroit music. thousands had their lives changed and started buying the records, djing, making the stuff, starting internet boards, wearing UR t-shirts and making pilgrimages to detroit and putting on underground parties. how namy people turn up each year for the demf (or whatever it''s called)? do you think techno or juan is getting their dues when a fake industry award show mentions his name 20 years after the fact. an industry that ignores you unless it wants to steal your songs (knights of the jaguar) and we're still begging for their acceptance and recognition. james www.jbucknell.com "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ones.com> To "Fred Heutte" 01/12/06 09:16 PM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> cc Subject RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Jeez James, don't be so churlish! Here I am in the belly of the beast, and so are you! Credit where it's due, I say. Ken -----Original Message----- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 08:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy It's about standing up for a friend and mentor, home town, and way of doing things, it seems to me. And a moment of recognition that not everything is under the control of the "programmers," even at the heart of their self-congratulatory, corrupt, musically reactionary mess of an industry. I'm actually thrilled by this. He has certainly had his ups and downs, and sure Missy is "pop," but the whole point is that this happened because of techno, and it's about damn time Juan got some serious cred. fh ------ mail forwarded, original message follows ------ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> Subject: [ok] Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:38:01 +1000 i would have never imagined that it was so important to mad mike that juan atkins to be aknowledged by the commercial record industry. does that mean underground resistance has now become overground assistance? james www.jbucknell.com ForwardSourceID:NT00024A7E