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From: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tristan Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: (313) More on Control and Joy Division documentary
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"We never really listened to Ian's lyrics, to be honest," agrees
Sumner. "At least, we never sat there and analysed them. It's a bit
like reading your friend's letters, I suppose.
I wonder if Barney has listened to his own lyrics on the last album ;)
Surely he owes himself a good kicking....
They've been abominable for while now. I gave up after reading the liner
notes on the second Electronic album. It was like a 50 year- old just
woke up out of a 30 year drug haze and realised that there were actually
problems in the world.
I did enjoy "Getting Away With It" simply because it was written about
Morrissey/Marr from Morrissey's perspective but I never really got any
further with Electronic but the last New Order album had some truly
shocking lyrics, which is a shame because I really loved the early stuff.
Haven't they split up now?
The article says as much they've broken up, and it sounds like Marr/Morris
are fighting Hook about something - perhaps use of the name going forward?
Just speculating...
It's a real shame that most good synth pop never picked up on the better
side of techno and got all tranced out instead. The Pet Shop Boys and
Erasure are similar examples. But I always really liked the first Electronic
album. It fits in nicely with Technique I think. By the time Republic came
around they were already getting Oakenfelded, although some of that stands
the test of time better than the rest. However, the second Electronic album
and The Other Two's thing were fairly horrendous. I never knew there was a
third Electronic album until I just went hunting (unsuccessfully) for the
text of those awful liner notes. I'd be curious to know if that's worth
listening to.
Tristan
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