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Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 7:13 PM
To: Kowalsky; Fred Heutte
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Subject: Re: (313) juan and kraftwerk (was Re: (313) 313 - T)

co-signed. I see techno as an extension of disco and kw/td-style stuff. 
there was nothing to be invented, we just (d)evolved


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From: "Kowalsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Fred Heutte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: (313) juan and kraftwerk (was Re: (313) 313 - T)


> That's exactly what i was saying to Frank. I didn't understand what 
> you're asking.
>
> But, i agree with you. This argument is pointless. And more pointless  is 
> to imagine a world where techno exists and kraftwerk doesn't.
> The kraftwerk sound signature can be heard, clearly, in many detroit 
> tunes. That's an undeniable fact.
>
> Kw
>
> On 02/06/2008, at 17:47, Fred Heutte wrote:
>
>> The whole argument is pointless.  Trans Europe Express and
>> Autobahn were huge hits on black radio.  I know because I heard
>> them a lot on the major DC stations (WOL and WOOK) at the
>> time.  Same in Detroit I'm sure.  Whether Juan was influenced
>> directly or not is for him to say. "Influence" could mean "I heard it
>> on the radio" or it could mean "I had the album and studied
>> how they were making the sounds."  For our purposes here,
>> what does it matter, Kowalsky?
>>
>> For what it's worth, the first electronic pop hit I recall was
>> Dick Hyman's "Minotaur."  That was 1968.  He's a pretty remarkable
>> guy, by the way -- had an illustrious career as a jazz player,
>> composer and researcher and is still alive.  He has recordings
>> released in every medium from 78s to MP3s.
>>
>> fh
>>
>>
>>
> 

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