On 11/14/2019 12:17 PM, William Brown wrote:

On 14 Nov 2019, at 19:06, Ludwig Krispenz <lkris...@redhat.com> wrote:


On 11/14/2019 09:29 AM, William Brown wrote:
On 14 Nov 2019, at 18:22, Ludwig Krispenz <lkris...@redhat.com> wrote:

Hi William,

before further thinking about this, I need some clarification, or maybe I just 
missed this. When you talk about 1..16 threads do you mean worker threads ?
Server worker threads. ldclt is set to only use 10 client threads - which is 
surprising that with 10 client threads we see a decline when workers > 10 (one 
would assume it should stabilise).

Or concurrent client connection threads in ldclt/rsearch/.... - how many 
concurrent connections do you have and how does varying this number change 
results ?
I will add more tests to this to allow varying the ldclt numbers.
ok, and I assume that you are using a version with nunc-stans removed, could 
you please also verify the effect of tubo-mode on/off ?
Correct, I'm using git master. Yes I'll check that also. I plan to add 
permutations like this to the test harness so it's easier for us to repeat in 
the future when we make changes.

I also need to find a way to wire in perf/stap so we can generate flamegraphs 
from each test run too for later analysis.

Thanks for the great ideas :)
Thanks, and one more idea ;-)
Can you separate the client and the server on two different machines, I've seen ldclt or other clients impacting cpu usage a lot, there will be some network overhead, but this should be ok (and more realistic)

Regards,
Ludwig

On 11/14/2019 03:34 AM, William Brown wrote:
Hi all,

After our catch up, we were discussing performance matters. I decided to start 
on this while waiting for some of my tickets to be reviewed and to see what's 
going on.

These tests were carried out on a virtual machine configured in search 6 to 
have access to 6 CPU's, and search 12 with 12 CPU. Both machines had access to 
8GB of ram.

The hardware is an i7 2.2GHz with 6 cores (12 threads) and 32GB of ram, with 
NVME storage provided.

The rows are the VM CPU's available, and the columns are the number of threads 
in nsslapd-threadnumber. No other variables were changed. The database has 6000 
users and 4000 groups. The instance was restarted before each test. The search 
was a randomised uid equality test with a single result. I provided the thread 
6 and 12 columns to try to match the VM and host specs rather than just the 
traditional base 2 sequence we see.

I've attached a screen shot of the results, but I have some initial thoughts to 
provide on this. What's interesting is our initial 1 thread performance and how 
steeply it ramps up towards 4 thread. This in mind it's not a linear increase. 
Per thread on s6 we go from ~3800 to ~2500 ops per second, and a similar ratio 
exists in s12. What is stark is that after t4 we immediately see a per thread 
*decline* despite the greater amount of available computer resources. This 
indicates that it is poor locking and thread coordination causing a rapid 
decline in performance. This was true on both s6 and s12. The decline 
intesifies rapidly once we exceed the CPU avail on the host (s6 between t6 to 
t12), but still declines even when we do have the hardware threads available in 
s12.

I will perform some testing between t1 and t6 versions to see if I can isolate 
which functions are having a growth in time consumption.

For now an early recommendation is that we alter our default CPU auto-tuning. 
Currently we use a curve which starts at 16 threads from 1 to 4 cores, and then 
tapering down to 512 cores to 512 threads - however in almost all of these 
autotuned threads we have threads greater than our core count. This from this 
graph would indicate that this decision only hurts our performance rather than 
improving it. I suggest we change our thread autotuning to be 1 to 1 ratio of 
threads to cores to prevent over contention on lock resources.

Thanks, more to come once I setup this profiling on a real machine so I can 
generate flamegraphs.

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