Thanks Tim,

I appreciate the additional information and the original Tech Note you wrote. 
It was very helpful.

Mike

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From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Timothy Penner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 4:35 PM
To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Subject: RE: Most Current Cipher List for 4D and questions regarding OpenSSL 
versions being used

Mike,

v15.2 used OpenSSL 1.0.1p
v15.3 was updated to OpenSSL 1.0.2j as described in the release notes: 
http://download.4d.com/Documents/Products_Documentation/LastVersions/Line_15/VIntl/4D_v15_3_ReleaseNotes_US.pdf

For a cipher list, I like to check https://cipherli.st/ * then click on the 
link for "Do you need to (or are forced to) support old / legacy software like 
IE < 9, Android < 2.2 or Java < 6? Yes, give me a ciphersuite that works with 
legacy / old software. "

* my browser (Chrome 54) doesn’t work with the default cipher list found on 
cipherli.st which is why I use the legacy link to get more ciphers.

The legacy list provided right now on this site is: 
"EECDH+AESGCM:EDH+AESGCM:AES256+EECDH:AES256+EDH:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA128:DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA384:DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA128:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA128:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA128:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA128:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:ECDHE-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:AES128-GCM-SHA384:AES128-GCM-SHA128:AES128-SHA128:AES128-SHA128:AES128-SHA:AES128-SHA:DES-CBC3-SHA:HIGH:!aNULL:!eNULL:!EXPORT:!DES:!MD5:!PSK:!RC4"

The only other change I did just now was remove "DES-CBC3-SHA" from the list 
because https://ssldecoder.org/ complained about it; which then resulted in 
"EECDH+AESGCM:EDH+AESGCM:AES256+EECDH:AES256+EDH:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA128:DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA384:DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA128:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-"+"SHA128:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA128:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA128:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:ECDHE-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:AES128-GCM-SHA384:AES128-GCM-SHA128:AES128-SHA128:AES128-SHA128:AES128-SHA:A"+"ES128-SHA:HIGH:!aNULL:!eNULL:!EXPORT:!DES:!MD5:!PSK:!RC4"

Hope that helps,

Tim PENNER

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