There's really no need for Catalina in my opinion. No big improvements, lots 
more headaches... 

The phrase macOS's Vista is pretty appropriate... :)

> On Dec 10, 2019, at 8:31 PM, John DeSoi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Mohave works fine with 4D 17 including Mac Mini configurations older than 
> 2014. Catalina will be another story...

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