On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 12:30 -0700, Devin Anderson wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Ralf Mardorf >> <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote: >> >> > Hi :) >> > >> > delayed by a thunder-storm I could do another test. >> > --snip-- >> >> So, what you're saying is that your MIDI device and software synth >> sync up less and less as you raise the period size. > > Yes :). > >> I had presupposed >> before that your MIDI device was triggering *after* your software >> synth, but it occurs to me that it might be the other way around. Do >> you hear the audio from your software synth first, or from your MIDI >> device? > > I can't say it today, now I do some office work. I had the impression > that it might vary. Sometimes the virtual drum sampler and sometimes the > standalone drum sampler was played earlier, I need to check this ASAP. > For older tests with my USB MIDI device it was exactly that way, that > jitter had positive and negative delay. At least the recorded waveforms > of external MIDI equipment (when I used USB MIDI, now I'm using PCI > MIDI), were recorded by Qtractor, before theoretically the MIDI event > was send ;). Note! Qtractor had no latency compensation, all recorded > audio of external MIDI instruments should have (positive) delay, but > negative delay.
If it ends up being the case that your MIDI device is being triggered before your software synth, then I'm guessing that the issue here is not MIDI jitter. I'm guessing the issue is that the latency that's imposed by JACK on incoming and outgoing audio is not imposed on incoming and outgoing ALSA MIDI. So, while the audio coming out of the software synth is delayed by a certain amount of frames imposed by JACK, the audio coming out of your MIDI device is only delayed by the latency of the ALSA drivers, the latency of the MIDI ports, the latency of your MIDI device. This would certainly explain why the problem gets worse as you raise the period size, and could explain why you had positive and negative delay in your older USB MIDI tests, as the reported MIDI jitter in your tests was *far* worse in your older tests than it is now. At the moment, I happen to be doing some work in JACK 2 that could potentially solve this issue by enabling MIDI to sync more closely with audio, so I'm very curious to know if my suspicions are correct. Please keep me updated. :) -- Devin Anderson devin (at) charityfinders (dot) com CharityFinders - http://www.charityfinders.com/ synthclone - http://synthclone.googlecode.com/ _______________________________________________ 64studio-devel mailing list 64studio-devel@lists.64studio.com http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-devel
