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Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
>> 64 Studio is default.
>>
>> For a lot of your posts this was not the case.  Do not lump those self
>> imposed problems in with the default install of 64Studio.
> 
> That's true, but at the moment I'm also not fine with the default 64
> Studio. I'm able to run an unstable heavy setup and maybe it will be
> possible to get a stable, but simple setup. I remember that my old
> hardware was stable with 64 Studio 2.1rc1, but there were not enough
> resources to make music, now there are enough resources, but more than
> enough crashes too.
> 
>>>> My main machine runs openSUSE, and the JAD distro worked fine on
>>>> that,
>>> JAD comes with enlightenment 17 by default and enlightenment 17 isn't
>>>  stable. Or is there a new JAD released, not using enlightenment?
>> I have never used these, but I am pretty sure you are not limited to
>> E17.  I would be more than surprised to find out that E17 was the _only_
>> choice.
> 
> JAD is a real Suse, so you can use all Suse repositories. I think there
> will be no other distro having such a great offer for software like Suse
> and community repositories for Suse will offer. But you must have much
> experience and good luck when using them, because they are most times
> the newest of the new. That must not be bad, e.g. the actual svn of
> Hydrogen, default for Suse repositories, comes with the patch, that will
> sync Ardour and Hydrogen when using Jack transport, but for WM/DEs the
> latest versions can be full of pitfalls. I only wonder that JAD should
> be without troubles, while the default install comes with e17, a very
> interesting DE, but also one that isn't stable, so it's a stupid choice
> for a DAW and nobody can say JAD will be stable by default. You have to
> change the DE and we were writing about not to change default installs.

E17 has been stable for me for more than a year.  YMMV.
> 
>> If you are building a new version then make a
>> .deb package out of it.  It will supersede your installed version.  Of
>> course if there are a lot of dependencies that need updating, this may
>> not be an option.
> 
> I'm not able to build a package for Debian, here Suse has a big
> advantage, instead of "make install" most times "checkinstall" is fine,
> not instead of all "make install"s and not when compiling with exotic
> compilers, but for most cases. "checkinstall" builds a RPM, a package
> for Suse.
> 
Your choice.  The howto is pretty easy to follow.

>>> I'll [...] look for a new BIOS update
>> RT apps are really demanding, and can often expose bugs in the BIOS or
>> in the drivers themselves.  I personally experienced this with my laptop.
> 
> There seems to be very often updates for my BIOS, since today I've got
> the latest, but didn't run audio applications today.  Unfortunately
> there are no comments about Linux or my hardware for the updates.
> 
>>> It might be interesting if somebody else has an ASUS M2A-VM HDMI, I
>>> especially bought the ASUS, because my old mobo is an ASRock, and I
>>> won't by an ASRock again.
>> I have this board and it sucks.  It plays DVDs and and xvids for the TV,
>> running a vanilla install of Windows XP. 
> 
> I can't say something about this board and Windows by own experiences,

It sucked under linux, and it sucks a little less under windows.

> because I don't have a Windows. I disabled HDMI and I know that
> Cinelerra is fine with Suse 11.0, but I don't know anything about xvids
> for TV etc., the integrated graphics sucks, but there's still the PCIex
> slot for a graphic card.
> 
> Isn't this board fine with Linux DAW applications or rt kernels?
> 
>> Quite simply, I gave up trying
>> to make it work properly.  It is the reason I now avoid AMD/ATI.  Soon I
>> can ditch my HP laptop from hell (nVidia chipset, AMD CPU, and two years
>> of pain that I will not get back).  In the face off all this, my 939
>> based AMD machines run flawlessly.  If buying new there can be only
>> Intel :)
>>
>> It is almost stable under windows too.  Low latency work blue screens
>> it, (memtest came up clean btw).
> 
> I won't have enough money for a new mobo for a long time, resp. I will
> spend 50,- EUR for a graphic card, maybe still this year. I don't think
> I'll get a better mobo including a Linux compatible graphics for around
> 50,- EUR.
> 
That is unfortunate.  The MB is more important than the video card.
Intel is currently the better choice, especially with integrated Intel
video (it works out of the box).  I remember saying as much when you
were looking to purchase.

> My ASRock was fine with Windows but not with Linux and all people say
> that ASUS should be good for Linux, also someone from the list mentioned
> this board, because of the price and because I needed better hardware
> for Linux. Maybe you were the one :D. The problem is, that nobody knows
> which hardware will be fine with Linux, unless it's oldish hardware,
> that than might not have enough resources for Linux in the near future
> or it is Intel hardware and not everybody has the money to buy Intel
> hardware.

With all things being equal, the chipset is more important than the name
on the sticker.  I do tend to buy ASUS motherboards, but I also pay
attention to the chipsets on the particular board I am buying.

>>> It seems to be, that my hardware isn't broken and I'm using the
>>> default
>> Yes it is.  It is broken by design.
> 
> Is this the answer to the question above? "Isn't this board fine with
> Linux DAW applications or rt kernels?"

I have had nothing but trouble with this chipset.  So I avoid it.  I
recommend others do the same.  I did not try an RT kernel with it, it
was a headache on a standard kernel.  Best to avoid it if you can.

> That might also be an explanation for the reason why a Linux compatible
> controller I bought and gave back by warranty, but with loss of money,
> wasn't compatible with Linux for my hardware.

Not sure.

> So I bought hardware that wasn't fine for a Linux DAW and spend again
> money for hardware that also isn't fine for Linux DAWs?
> 
Yes, you bought a motherboard that does not work very well.  I was not
using it for a DAW and I had a lot of problems.  That is why I gave it away.

> Thank you :), I hope the latest BIOS update has solved the troubles :S,
> if not Bill Gates seems to have good luck, resp. if so, it's to consider
> which way I'll go, if there isn't another way for me, than to use
> Windows. Bill Gates shouldn't benefit from my suffering.

It will take a combination of BIOS patches and support from newer
kernels to solve your problems.  It could be a while.  If you really are
impatient you may wish to learn how to patch and compile your own
kernel. Otherwise, wait.
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