Hi Dave,

>> ok ... so what I think at the moment:
>> For making music, Linux is NOT a good alternative at the moment, 
>> especially if one needs to use a lot of VST instruments. For recording 
>> and mixing, things look different. What do you think?  
>>     
>
> Hi Mathias,
>
> I would say it depends on what kind of music you make.
>
> I would also say that Linux is not a good alternative especially if one 
> can *only* make music with a lot of VST plugins. There are whole new 
> classes of musicians now who can't play traditional  instruments, but 
> because the virtual instruments and effects are available they can make 
> very "real" recordings. I do it myself, so please understand I'm not 
> particularly opposed to the phenomenon. However, I hope you'll agree 
> that the mere possession of a nice set of plugins does not confer 
> musical intelligence, musical sensitivity, or musical skills. I own a 
> shovel, but I'm no gardener. I can still have fun in the garden, but I 
> know the difference between myself and someone who really knows what 
> they're doing.
>   
Nothing to add. You're totally right. Except one thing: I think, If I 
would like to have fun in the garden, and in fact, I am NOT a 
professional studio guy, and all I want to do is to test, if linux is 
suitable for me.

At the moment, I doesn't look like. Hydrogen is not starting. VST 
instruments are not really usable and there are  only some rare native 
instrument plugins available. Currently there's no good sequencer 
available (but qtractor seems to get the chance to become one...)

> However, I will point out that those of us who can actually play those 
> traditional instruments are more fun at parties and other impromptu 
> events. Hitting the spacebar on a laptop just doesn't compete with the 
> drama of a fingerpicking guitarist trying to woo the affections of the 
> lady-types. :)
>   

Hm ... I can't agree with that. Of course, I AM able to play some 
instruments. I play drums, accordion, keyboard and a little bit guitar. 
But that does not help me when I try to create a song and i want to 
quick-setup some instruments with VST instrument. Maybe just to get a 
demo or a playback for the recording? That's how we do it.

>> When talking about instruments, for making music with linux, I think we're 
>> talking about synthesizers and drums ...
>>     
> No offense intended, but I think you maybe need to listen to more of the 
> variety of music made with Linux audio tools.
>
> Have you heard much music made with Csound ?
>
> In the last analysis, your music is what will interest me, not the tools 
> used. I've heard brilliant music made with a 4-track PortaStudio and a 
> C64, and I've seen & heard the sonic equivalent  of  well-polished turds 
> made with AVID and Pro Tools systems. Talent and ability still matter to 
> some musicians, and a gussied-up piece of crap still smells like crap, 
> despite the best efforts of Autotune and Melodyne. Of course, people 
> will buy what they like, and there is indeed no accounting for taste. 
> Mine tends towards the music of Charley Patton and of Elliott Carter. :)
>   

That's right. But doesn't help me for getting a good linux system for 
making music (and thats what I tried to do)

regards,
gizzmo
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