Hi all,
I learned much from u all in the passed one year, it's my hounor to be a member 
of 6lowpan group, It's a promissing team.
I am leaving school soon, and will no longer work on 6lowpan, so, do any body 
know how to quit from 6Lowpan group? or, would the admin be kindly to remove me 
from the member list?
thanks,
yan





From: "Muneeb Ali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Philip Levis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 06:54:14 +0800 (CST)
Subject: Re: [6lowpan] ND optimization for sensor nodes (power saving / 
Idle/Sleep mode)

On 12/7/07, Philip Levis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Dec 6, 2007, at 4:39 PM, Timothy J. Salo wrote:


>
> Do any of the 802.15.4 chips support a "wake on receive"
> capability?  Does this capability (assuming it exists)
> require that the radio be powered on continuously? That is, 
> does this capability power-down _only_ the processor, but
> not the radio?  Does this capability really save enough
> power to meet the needs of many battery-powered, hopefully
> long-lived wireless sensor networks? 
>

This doesn't work like you think it does. To hear a signal, your
radio has to be on. The energy cost of demodulation is not the
principal issue.

Phil


Yes, to hear a signal the radio needs to be on. So "wake on receive" is hard 
unless you consider dual radios. The concept of "dual radios" has existed in 
theory. A second, always-on, radio can wake up the "main" radio to give you 
wake on receive functionality. However, the power consumption of the always-on 
second radio will cost you a lot more (in terms of energy) compared to 
duty-cycling the "main" radio. Thats why dual radios with wake-on-receive have 
largely remained a theoretical concept. See this work 
http://www.st.ewi.tudelft.nl/~koen/papers/wakeup-radio.pdf

for a working prototype of a dual radio (EUR 5 per radio) that has acceptable 
energy costs in always-on mode. The current problem, however, is that the range 
of the wake-up radio is fairly small. Second problem is that to keep the energy 
costs low, you will end up with a "bare-bones" radio that is not even 
sophisticated enough to do addressing. You end up waking up a lot of neighbors 
if you don't know how to address a particular one (don't know if they have 
already solved this). Increasing the range while keeping energy costs 
acceptable is an on-going work at the startup from where one of the authors is 
from. 

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