Hi Geoff,

On 6/12/08 4:49 PM, "Geoff Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It was clear that items: 1(ND), 3(Architecture) and 5(Security) were
> priority items.  It was less clear to the three of us that use cases
> were a priority item.
> 
> It sounds like we have people that would like to continue to work on the
> use cases and that completing them in parallel to the other efforts
> would be a "good thing".
> 
> What schedule do the authors anticipate completing the document?

Well hopefully you do not require to terminate the document before it
becomes a WG item ;-) To answer your question, it is already the second
revision, the third revision will be posted before Dublin and we'll be
having a fairly stable ID.

Thanks.

JP.

> 
> geoff
> 
> On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 16:06 +0200, Mark Townsley wrote:
>> Geoff Mulligan wrote:
>>> It didn't seem to be a priority item.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps we should consider incorporating the Use Cases into the
>>> architecture document.
>> Whether the use-cases are in the arch document or separate is somewhat
>> orthogonal to whether they are chartered work right now.
>>>  If not then I think once we complete the few
>>> documents we should then revisit the use cases.
>>>   
>> I a missing why writing down use-cases is not a good thing to do sooner
>> rather than later. I don't think it should stop protocol work in its
>> tracks, but I see no indication right now that it would. As long as the
>> use-cases are considered informational and can run largely in parallel*
>> to the normative work at this stage, I don't know why we wouldn't pursue it.
>> 
>> - Mark
>> 
>> *If this were the very beginnings of 6lowpan, I would insist on
>> use-cases to help drive requirements, architecture, and finally solution
>> design. While we are somewhat past that stage,  I do think they could
>> still be very useful to ROLL, as well as going forward as we continue to
>> debate the pros and cons of various optimizations.
>>> geoff
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 10:49 +0900, Eunsook "Eunah" Kim wrote:
>>>   
>>>> Geoff,
>>>> 
>>>> 6LoWPAN use-case was always in the recharter items, and there was no
>>>> objection on it. Any reason to take it out?
>>>> Thanks for the good work.
>>>> 
>>>> -eunah
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:02 AM, Geoff Mulligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>> After reviewing the comments on the list and talking with Carsten and
>>>>> Mark, we have come up with the following text for the Charter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We hope (and think) that this reflects the input from the group and Mark
>>>>> plans to take this to the IESG for rechartering approval.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We've had some excellent discussion on a few topics and this is great.
>>>>> There is no reason why we should stop the discussion and work while Mark
>>>>> handles the rechartering.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. I think that the work is proceeding on the Security Analysis document
>>>>> 2. We have the current HC1G draft.  The issue being discussed is the
>>>>> "compression" of the UDP checksum and it's impact on the end-to-end
>>>>> model.  I would like to hear more input and discussion on this.  Please
>>>>> speak up if you have thoughts on this.
>>>>> 3. We have some initial input on the Architecture document and I would
>>>>> like to hear from anyone that would volunteer to continue to work on
>>>>> this document.
>>>>> 
>>>>>        geoff
>>>>> 
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