The expression in the draft "In the IPv6 hop limit, 255 or a smaller number" has been interpreted as 255 for the default by several implementers. This has led to interop difficulties. I think the draft would be clearer if it specified a hop limit sufficient for messages to travel from the LBR to the furthest LR.

In the case I am interested in, we are using RPL with source routing so the worst case hop limit can be calculated:- http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-02 specifies RH4_MAX_SIZE 136. We are compressing down to 16 bits per address, giving a max depth of (136-8)/2 = 64, or less if we specify a smaller network depth in our profile specification.

Daniel.



Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
There is a difference in type of messages:

6lowpan-ND messages (which stay in the 6lowpan network) should specify their Hop Limit value, more precisely than just the current vague "255 or less".

Any other IP non-6lowpan-ND messages' Hop Limit should be left to the other non-6lowpan-ND protocols to specify.

(An IP UDP message sent by a node in the 6lowpan network should be able to reach a correspondent node on the other side of the Internet, i.e. its Hop Limit to be as large as it could.)

("should" but IMHO).

Alex

Le 18/10/2010 10:09, Zach Shelby a écrit :
Daniel,

The draft doesn't actually specify that you must use a hop limit of 255. Section 8.2.3 states:

"In the IPv6 hop limit, 255 or a smaller number."

We will definitely try to clarify this better in the text of the next revision though, this could be interpreted now as recommending the use of 255.

Thanks,
Zach

On Oct 18, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Daniel Gavelle wrote:

I agree that we don't need a hardwired constant. However, the 6LowPAN-ND draft currently specifies a hop limit of 255 for multihop messages. I think we should change the text to make it clear that the hop limit should be set to the same value as a normal multihop message (e.g. a UDP message) sent to the LBR.

Daniel.



Carsten Bormann wrote:
On Oct 13, 2010, at 14:30, Daniel Gavelle wrote:
These problems could be addressed by setting the hop limit to a more typical value, e.g. 64, for the multi-hop messages.
Sounds good to me.
Multihop messages between 6LR and 6LBR definitely don't need the HL=255 trick, so the nodes should be free to choose a hop limit that is appropriate for the network they are in. I don't think we want to hardwire a suggestion for the 'hop limit' value in the draft (although a number around 64 sounds like a good implementation default).
Gruesse, Carsten


Regards,

Daniel.

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