Simon, I understand your point now.

Carsten, I understand your proposal, but given the text of RFC8025, we did
not choose to omit the page switch byte.

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Simon Duquennoy <simon.duquen...@inria.fr>
wrote:

> That would make sense and save a byte in all cases but is this
> compliant with RFC 8025?"
>
> "
> Values of the Dispatch byte defined in [RFC4944] are considered as
>    belonging to the Page 0 parsing context, which is the default and
>    does not need to be signaled explicitly at the beginning of a 6LoWPAN
>    packet.  This ensures backward compatibility with existing
>    implementations of 6LoWPAN.
> "
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Carsten Bormann <c...@tzi.org> wrote:
> > You indeed don’t need page 1 for IPHC.
> > You need to be on page 1 once you need 6LoRH.
> >
> > (My proposal was to simply define 6TiSCH to start in page 1.  No idea
> whether that removes any ever-so-remote compatibility with 6LoWPAN or if
> there is any other reason to start off in page 0.)
> >
> > Grüße, Carsten
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 5, 2017, at 12:02, Simon Duquennoy <simon.duquen...@inria.fr>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> In Thomas' example
> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-munoz-6tisch-examples-
> 00#section-3.6.1
> >> there is a page dispatch to page 1 (0xf1) followed by IPHC (no routing
> >> header). In this case, couldn't one choose to elide the page dispatch
> >> and directly include IPHC? Or is the IPHC different from a page 0
> >> IPHC?
> >> Just checking if we're on the same page (no pun intended ;))
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Simon
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:41 AM, Michael Richardson
> >> <mcr+i...@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thomas Watteyne <thomas.watte...@inria.fr> wrote:
> >>>> Simon, all, FYI, we agreed on Friday that using paging dispatch is the
> >>>> right way forward. I propose we continue discussing on the plugtests
> >>>> ML if that's going to create problems.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, but the point is that a non-6loRH node will not be able to decode
> other
> >>> than "page 1", and we have no signaling mechanism to tell a 6loRH node
> to
> >>> "fall back".
> >>>
> >>> That was intentional... We discussed having a flag in the RPL DIO to
> say if
> >>> there were old nodes present, but decided it wasn't worth it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Michael Richardson <mcr+i...@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
> >>> -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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>



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Thomas Watteyne, PhD
Research Scientist & Innovator, Inria
Sr Networking Design Eng, Linear Tech
Founder & co-lead, UC Berkeley OpenWSN
Co-chair, IETF 6TiSCH

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