Diego, I don't think that's a good idea. The SF shuld be a standalone document. Cutting it into piece will IMO add delays. Plus, I want the SF(s) to really be the end of the story, i.e. not leave other things open that are undefined in the SF. Thomas
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Prof. Diego Dujovne < diego.dujo...@mail.udp.cl> wrote: > I would also separate the first part as a BCP as it happened > in RFC8180, to concentrate on the 6P requirements, in order > to provide a common structure to the SFs. > Regards, > > Diego Dujovne > > 2017-10-31 13:55 GMT-03:00 Thomas Watteyne <thomas.watte...@inria.fr>: > >> That's exactly what we need to discuss in Singapore. >> >> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Prof. Diego Dujovne < >> diego.dujo...@mail.udp.cl> wrote: >> >>> My proposal would be to merge both SFX and MSF since >>> they look complementary - from my point of view -. >>> Any comments? >>> Regards, >>> >>> Diego >>> >>> 2017-10-31 10:43 GMT-03:00 Prof. Diego Dujovne < >>> diego.dujo...@mail.udp.cl>: >>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> From a fast overview of the draft: >>>> >>>> 1- The scheduling algorithm looks like a particular case of th SF0 (now >>>> SFX) >>>> 2- The collision detection algorithm is similar to what is already >>>> stated on SF0 (now SFX) - in SF0 threshold (and before, a percentage) >>>> above >>>> the average value is used to trigger a cell relocation event. >>>> 3- For the time being, both recommended values and formulas have no >>>> experimental >>>> validation, which leads to the experimental track, instead of the >>>> standards track, as it >>>> happened to SF0 to become SFX. >>>> >>>> Do you agree? >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Diego >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-10-31 9:57 GMT-03:00 Tengfei Chang <tengfei.ch...@inria.fr>: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> The attached is the txt format for the draft-ietf-6tisch-6top-msf-00. >>>>> You can refer to this attachment for now. >>>>> >>>>> Tengfei >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) < >>>>> pthub...@cisco.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Tengfei : >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> For those interested, would you have another link in the meantime >>>>>> (e.g. a WIP in bitbucket) ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pascal >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Tengfei Chang [mailto:tengfei.ch...@inria.fr] >>>>>> *Sent:* mardi 31 octobre 2017 13:17 >>>>>> *To:* Prof. Diego Dujovne <diego.dujo...@mail.udp.cl> >>>>>> *Cc:* Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthub...@cisco.com>; 6tisch@ietf.org >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [6tisch] Agenda, 6TiSCH WG interim, November 3rd, 2017 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Diego, All, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Because of my mistake, I failed to submit this draft before the >>>>>> deadline. We are waiting for the message from the administration to see >>>>>> if >>>>>> it's possible to submit it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will keep you all update. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> My apologies for the mistake! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tengfei >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Prof. Diego Dujovne < >>>>>> diego.dujo...@mail.udp.cl> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I cannot find the text for: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> draft-chang-6tisch-6top-msf >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you provide a link? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Diego >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2017-10-31 6:35 GMT-03:00 Pascal Thubert (pthubert) < >>>>>> pthub...@cisco.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear all : >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Note: Due to EU going CET this WE, this meeting is at 3PM CET!!!!!* >>>>>> >>>>>> We placed a draft agenda on the IETF tools site >>>>>> >>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2017-6tisch- >>>>>> 17-6tisch-01/ >>>>>> >>>>>> At the time of the posting it reads as follows; please let us know if >>>>>> we need to consider changing anything before next Monday. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The chairs. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Connection details >>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> * Date: 3 November 2017 7-8am Pacific >>>>>> http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1&lid=100,12,5392171,18501 >>>>>> 47&h=100&date=2017-11-03&sln=14-15 >>>>>> * Webex Meeting: >>>>>> https://cisco.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?MTID=m829e5143deab3 >>>>>> 957a95b6cdb44fff299 >>>>>> * Meeting number (access code): 208 468 097 >>>>>> * Meeting password: B2FVVAkM (22388256 from phones) >>>>>> * Material link: >>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/6tisch/meetings/raw/master/170908_webe >>>>>> x/slides_170908_webex.ppt >>>>>> >>>>>> Agenda >>>>>> ------ >>>>>> >>>>>> * Note-Well, Blue Sheets, Scribes, Agenda Bashing [ 5min] >>>>>> >>>>>> * Status of the work [ 5min] >>>>>> >>>>>> * IETF 100 prep (chairs) [15min] >>>>>> >>>>>> * draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal-security (Malisa Vucinic) [15min] >>>>>> >>>>>> * draft-chang-6tisch-6top-msf (Tengfei Chang) [20min] >>>>>> >>>>>> * Any Other Business, IEEE status [QS] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 6tisch mailing list >>>>>> 6tisch@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> DIEGO DUJOVNE >>>>>> Profesor Asociado >>>>>> Escuela de Informática y Telecomunicaciones >>>>>> Facultad de Ingeniería - Universidad Diego Portales - Chile >>>>>> www.ingenieria.udp.cl >>>>>> (56 2) 676 8125 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 6tisch mailing list >>>>>> 6tisch@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Chang Tengfei, >>>>>> >>>>>> Pre-Postdoctoral Research Engineer, Inria >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 6tisch mailing list >>>>>> 6tisch@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Chang Tengfei, >>>>> Pre-Postdoctoral Research Engineer, Inria >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> DIEGO DUJOVNE >>>> Profesor Asociado >>>> Escuela de Informática y Telecomunicaciones >>>> Facultad de Ingeniería - Universidad Diego Portales - Chile >>>> www.ingenieria.udp.cl >>>> (56 2) 676 8125 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> DIEGO DUJOVNE >>> Profesor Asociado >>> Escuela de Informática y Telecomunicaciones >>> Facultad de Ingeniería - Universidad Diego Portales - Chile >>> www.ingenieria.udp.cl >>> (56 2) 676 8125 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 6tisch mailing list >>> 6tisch@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> _______________________________________ >> >> Thomas Watteyne, PhD >> Research Scientist & Innovator, Inria >> Sr Networking Design Eng, Linear Tech >> Founder & co-lead, UC Berkeley OpenWSN >> Co-chair, IETF 6TiSCH >> >> www.thomaswatteyne.com >> _______________________________________ >> > > > > -- > DIEGO DUJOVNE > Profesor Asociado > Escuela de Informática y Telecomunicaciones > Facultad de Ingeniería - Universidad Diego Portales - Chile > www.ingenieria.udp.cl > (56 2) 676 8125 > -- _______________________________________ Thomas Watteyne, PhD Research Scientist & Innovator, Inria Sr Networking Design Eng, Linear Tech Founder & co-lead, UC Berkeley OpenWSN Co-chair, IETF 6TiSCH www.thomaswatteyne.com _______________________________________
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