On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:43 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 08:16:40PM +0100, Steve Simon wrote: >>> I cannot find the reference (sorry), but I read an interview with Ken >>> (Thompson) a while ago. >>> >> >> My interpretation of cloud computing is precisely the split done by >> plan9 with terminal/CPU/FileServer: a UI runing on a this Terminal, with >> actual computing done somewhere about data stored somewhere. >> > > That misses the dynamic nature which clouds could enable -- something > we lack as well with our hardcoded /lib/ndb files -- there is no > provisions for cluster resources coming and going (or failing) and no > control facilities given for provisioning (or deprovisioning) those > resources in a dynamic fashion. Lucho's kvmfs (and to a certain > extent xcpu) seem like steps in the right direction -- but IMHO more > fundamental changes need to occur in the way we think about things. I > believe the file system interfaces While not focused on "cloud > computing" in particular, the work we are doing under HARE aims to > explore these directions further (both in the context of Plan > 9/Inferno as well as broader themes involving other platforms).
Vidi also seems to be an attempt to make Venti work in such a dynamic environment. IMHO, the assumption that computers are always connected to the network was a fundamental mistake in Plan 9 > > For hints/ideas/whatnot you can check the current pubs (more coming > soon): http://www.research.ibm.com/hare > > -eric > >
