I like some of the fun in 9front, /lib/theo in special, and I dislike
the idea of having the US constitution in /lib.
But my point is that I think it is a little bit too much having Mein
Kampf in there. It seems to me some people needed attention and adding
such a disgusting text to the tree was the obvious way to get it. As
was pointed out, people need to grow up, and I should add that one
should only make jokes that one can sustain outside the internet.
As a mostly silent contributor to 9front, I think we have interesting
technical stuff to put forth and that kind of 'look how I am
controversial' game is not one of them.

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Skip Tavakkolian
<skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> this reasoning is so ridiculous that i have to believe you're trolling.
>
> the U.S. Constitution has been the foundation for the rule of law in
> this country for 200+ years, and the Gettysburg address honored the
> fallen and the ideals -- equality for all men -- that they died for.
> why would anyone think that racist propaganda or hate speech should
> have equal space in /lib?
>
> some 70 million people were killed during WWII, partly because some
> people believed the propaganda that is Mein Kampf. there's nothing
> funny about that.
>
> please, grow up!
>
> -Skip
>
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Jacob Todd <jaketodd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The constitution and the gettysburg address are in there, too.
>>
>> On Nov 26, 2011 6:51 PM, "erik quanstrom" <quans...@quanstro.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > 9front seems to me to define itself as: having fun while getting
>>> > useful stuff done. With an emphasis in *fun* and in not taking
>>> > anything too seriously, while one the technical side favoring
>>> > simplicity and things that work.
>>> >
>>> > This might not be exactly the same original Plan 9 values, but seems
>>> > close enough. Of course in 9front there is also an element of trolling
>>> > and poking fun at itself and anything else, and I will be happy if
>>> > cat-v.org takes the blame for that.
>>> >
>>> > >  to be honest, it's one of the reasons i've stopped following 9front.
>>> > >
>>> > > to paraphrase a saying in mathematics, it's not enough to be good
>>> > > you must also be humble.  why do you think dennis' ideas took
>>> > > over?
>>> >
>>> > I think an important form of humility is not taking yourself too
>>> > seriously. For an example of this see Dennis' Anti-Foreword to The
>>> > UNIX-HATERS Handbook: http://simson.net/ref/ugh.pdf
>>> >
>>> > 9front can't claim to reach such exquisite levels of "seriousness",
>>> > but it tries.
>>> >
>>> > I suspect one of the reasons why 9front exists is because some people
>>> > in the Plan 9 community this days seem to take themselves and the
>>> > whole project a bit too seriously.
>>> >
>>> > Which is kind of weird for a project called after an Ed Wood film.
>>>
>>> uriel, what you say would make sense if the "jokes" didn't include putting
>>> mein kampf in /lib.
>>>
>>> - erik
>>>
>>
>
>

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