Here's one of many small issues I would like explained or adjusted: I can half run rio (p9p's rio) under xnest. I seem to recall Erik mentioning the option, but in my few efforts, it landed up with the newly-created windows on the desktop instead of within the rio xnest.
Is it worth my while to delve into p9p's innards and see if I can find all the locations where this needs to be corrected? Is it going to be one locations or far too many? I simply can't sacrifice my browser and skype to rio, my job depends on those two. I'm trying hard to wean myself off Thunderbird, I detest that animal and have made some progress with Erik's upas which doesn't get totally confused with Dovecot on the IMAP side - very minor tweaks sufficed to compile under 9legacy (I just copied the le/be module(s) from the library into the "distribution"). I still need to be able to operate mailman's web interface: replacing that will with an acme/mail utility is a bit beyond me and in any case I think mailman's days are numbered, more so now that version 3 is starting to take shape and is going to obsolete version 2 that by comparison is a shrew against an elephant. Lucio. On 4/15/19, s...@9front.org <s...@9front.org> wrote: > thinking is hard. there is a sweet spot somewhere between ease of use > and knowing what you're trying to accomplish in the first place. > > once you learn the system, you can get a lot of mileage out of > in-built system features, such as shell commands, lists (variables), > functions, and pipelines. file interfaces and private namespaces make > these simple primitives even more powerful than they are on presumably > more familiar unix systems. (it has to be said: unix users already > don't seem to get much mileage out of existing unix features.) > > rio is scriptable, and all of its features are exposed to file > interfaces and text commands. that's a huge steering wheel, even if > your hands are small. > > all the cosmetic stuff new users typically complain about can be > modified with a minimum of knowledge and skill. this is a benefit of > the terse, simple programming style. sometimes, even a deficient > program can be better than a featureful one, if the deficient program > is simple and easy to modify. just implement whatever it is you > actually want to do. > > some people would say this is ugly: > > http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rio/img/20190415.png > > sl > > -- Lucio De Re 2 Piet Retief St Kestell (Eastern Free State) 9860 South Africa Ph.: +27 58 653 1433 Cell: +27 83 251 5824 FAX: +27 58 653 1435
