26.01.2024 10:49:42 Frank D. Engel, Jr. <fde...@fjrhome.net>: > From my perspective, Plan 9 was split into two forks: 9legacy for people who > don't want it to move forward but simply to be maintained, and 9front for > people who want the project to move forward and continue to grow. > > Having a core team for "Plan 9" at this point would be kind of pointless as > the name was a real product at one time but now encompasses a collection of > related forks of what was once a product, so such a team would need to form > around one particular fork. > > Having a core team basically expresses the goal of moving the project > forward, so if a core team were to form right now, it would be for 9front, or > around a new fork with a similar set of common ideals (maybe we move on to > Plan 10?), since moving forward is kind of the antithesis of what 9legacy > seems to be about.
That sounds about right. Basically everything you said. Any attempt to release an official new edition of Plan 9 would be a fork. I personally think it is ok for 9legacy to just maintain the original version and not move the project forward. I think 9front tries to stay as compatible as possible at runtime (so same binary formats, same protocols, basically Plan 9 4th "plus"). What OP wants might include breaking changes that break compatibility on some system layers. Probably not on a level of protocols or something, but filesystems might change, probably a complete new window manager, graphics acceleration, a different plumber and lots and lots of more "modern" software (anyone wanna port firefox or chrome? ;) ). That might really be a Plan 10 at some point. I very much believe that this should be a fork, probably with some kinda package manager to make larger parts optional. Not everyone needs everything. Plan 9 as it is right now can include many things without asking, because they're so small. Imagine bundling a 100M graphics driver with Plan 9, including the source! No, thanks. Back to topic with some question to the OP (and please, please, don't take it personally or something): Is it possible that you want to contribute to Plan 9 but don't know where to start? I remember, when I started with Plan 9, I wanted to improve many things, contribute everything I could, until I realized that many things are like they are on purpose. I was often grounded by people like ori, hiro, mycroftiv, kvik and a few others on grid, as well as cat-v. I learned that being part of Plan 9 does not necessarily mean contributing large chunks of code, or changing many things to be "better" (whatever better means). sirjofri P.S.: sorry Frank, I clicked the wrong reply button. Of course this should go to the mailing list. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T5bdb5197344e4e7f-Mca2888763f27456d047a1d2e Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
