On May 7, 3:28 pm, xeno <[email protected]> wrote: > On May 7, 12:10 pm, Deidzoeb <[email protected]> wrote: > > > A child squashing ants on a sidewalk seems cruel, but imagine a child > > who created ants from nothingness and gave them all the feelings and > > potential of humans, made them to reject him, and then he squashed > > them for rejecting him. That would be an even more cruel child, > > More cruel? The end result is squashing in both cases. What difference > does the motivation make? & something that makes something else out of > nothingness is contradictory because that something else comes out of > that something, (or someone, if you will). The non-being is connected > with being not pure nothingness.
I suppose you're right. More malicious? It would be an inventively cruel kid instead of just a kid who reacts with cruelty. Re: the Christian God existing in nothingness and creating things out of nothingness, I agree, it's contradictory. I'm just trying to run with it for the sake of this weird example. It would be just as absurd if the "invisible pink unicorn" squashed ants, whether or not a real thing can be invisible and also pink. > > but it > > wouldn’t be Christian justice, because they would only be squashed, > > they wouldn’t experience eternal suffering > > How is it that Christian justice, as defined above, reflects an > infinite lack of charity? Doesn't that refute the notion that god is > love? I'm saying eternal damnation seems to be part of eternal justice. If a sinner just died and had no afterlife, I assume some Christians would say that justice hasn't been fulfilled because the sinner should have an eternal afterlife of suffering in Hell. (I don't know if it was clear in that post, but I'm saying Christian "justice" is not a good thing, not what I would consider justice. Like if we were talking about "justice" under Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, or the "justice" in some countries where women are killed for admitting they have been raped. It's their version of "justice", not what I would call "justice.") Re: infinite lack of charity, the notion that god is love. I'm not sure what you're talking about. I wouldn't say that god is love. From reading the Bible, the Christian God seems to me to be a god of love and hate and good and evil and salvation and damnation. They want to emphasize that he's a "god of love" but the character is apparently the designer and implementer of damnation. To boil it down to its essence, a question that might look cute on a little plastic bracelet: Why would a good god damn? I don't think a good god would damn, or create a system where any of his creatures end up suffering eternally. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "A Civil Religious Debate" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate?hl=en.
