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> John Chambers says -
>
> >And now Bruce is part of the cabal that's inflicting its
> >own ideas about ABC on the poor, oppressed user community.
>
> Maybe that's what he was trying to distance himself from.
>
> >So now he will be subject to
> >all the usual criticism for hist dictatorial infliction of useful
> >software on users who weren't consulted about it beforehand.
>
> Well he has co-opted the J: command. I hope nobody had any plans for that.
> On the other hand, he has introduced a sharps and flats key signature so
> presumably "We who like it the way it is" will be down on him like a ton of
> bricks.
>
Far from it. Just don't take away my K:tonic mode from me - I need it.
>
> >Maybe we should tell Bruce about the secret handshake ...
>
> When I launched abccheck, Phil Taylor told me that since I was now a
> developer I was entitled to vote. Can I have the handshake as well?
>
> Wil Macaulay says -
>
> >If you are using abc as an output format, you are well advised
> >to use a lowest-common-denominator form.
>
> Anybody else care to comment?
Or don't, see if I care. But if you want the abc to be widely usable it
would be sensible.
>
>
> >Should we stop the production of $50 guitars because they don't sound as
> good?
>
> YES!!
> But seriously, are you saying that because you're doing it for free you don't
> take pride in the quality of your work? If you are doing it for the love of
> it, the result should be better than commercial mass production.
>
Better for who? It does what I need, and I have added stuff (like breves and N:
in the tune) that allowed it to read tunes others care about.
>
> >I can honestly say that if I didn't see some programming issues that I don't
> >know how to solve right away, I wouldn't be doing this.
>
> So routine but dull things that might actually be useful don't get done?
>
Sometimes. So sue me.
>
> Thanks for the advice Will; that's what I'm doing, or would be if I wasn't
> wasting time arguing with people who seem to disagree with everything I say
> on principle. In the meantime, I'd like to use Voices; which of the
> incompatible versions of the V: command should I use?
Pick one. Tell us why you picked it so we can see if those reasons
apply to us or not. Stop whining.
> I'd like to be able to
> process chords; how can I reliably recognise whether something between double
> quotes is a chord or not? (Absence of ^_<> or @ isn't enough.) How can I
> use the !symbol! notation when it clashes with abc2win's use of ! ?
if the next character is end of line, then it is abc2win's line break.
else
if there is another ! before end of line then
if the string between is a recognized symbol
process it as such
else
treat first ! as line break
apply same algorithm to next !
There may be one or two abcs that don't behave correctly, so you'd
better document that behaviour just in case. Since abcs are typically
edited at the source form it should be pretty easy for the user
to figure out which ! is a problem.
>
>
>
> All I'm asking for is a more cooperative approach, for developers to take a
> bit more notice of what other developers are doing and to take a bit more
> interest in what the non-programming user wants. Are you really arguing
> against that?
>
No, you are not. You are impugning the motives and good judgement
of people who are trying to solve some pretty difficult problems, and
making yourself generally unpleasant.
>
> Enough. I've got work to do.
go do it. me too
>
>
> Bryan
>
> (Hmmm. Perhaps if I came out in favour of one of the V: formats......
Please do. I'd be interested to see why you think one is more useful
than the other.
>
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