I guess you must be an abc2win user then Gianni? >As we both know - as anybody else on this list, for the matter! - >ABC2WIN is "de facto" the standard as far as the abc notation is >employed on the web, both as far as the mailing list and a number of >the abc collections of tunes available for download are concerned. Dont you just hate these unfounded assertions? Once upon a time abc2win was the only GUI abc software around, and it achieved a great deal of success, and helped to popularise the language. However, it has not developed significantly since then, and other programs have far surpassed it in features, ease of use and ability to handle complex abc. I have over 10,000 tunes on my machine, downloaded from all over the web, and less than 5% of them have exclamation marks at the ends of the lines. These tunes do cause problems out of all proportion to their actual numbers, not because of the exclamation marks, but because they are full of syntactical errors (I guess abc2win's error checking is lax, or that the kind of people who use abc2win are not serious enough about their work to check). I could equally claim that BarFly is the de facto standard on the grounds that it runs on the platform which is the de facto standard for music production, or that BarFly's site gets a higher Google page ranking than abc2win does. http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Multimedia/Music_and_Audio/Software/Notation/ (The abc home page itself rates 4, after Sibelius, Coda and CERL. BarFly gets position 9 while abc2win scrapes in at 22. No other abc software gets a mention.) And before I get flamed for it I'm not really claiming BarFly as any kind of standard. I was being rhetorical. Phil Taylor To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html