Frank Nordberg wrote:
>Phil Taylor wrote:
>>
>> Are you using Quicktime 6.0.2?  If not, update.  It seems to solve all
>> the sound problems.
>
>Yes I am using Quicktime 6.0.2.
>The application itself is actually quite good, but the sound samples
>they introduced in version 5 really sucks!

Do you mean the Roland GS set or the General Midi set?  I don't think
the GM set has changed since Quicktime 4.

>It's an old well-known problem to all electronic musicians that hardware
>and software manufacturers regard string ensemble sounds as something
>that should only be used for long, drawn-out notes in the background. No
>attack whatsoever, and the volume takes ages to build. The common
>solution to this problem is to mix in some solo string sounds.
>Apparently Apple doesn't like this kind of hacks, so the solo string
>sounds in QuickTime are just as bad in that respect as common string
>ensemble sounds (and their string ensemble sounds are of course worse
>than you can possibly imagine). They even remembered to destroy the
>"secret" solo string sound (the fiddle)! There simply is no way you can
>have a fast moving strings line within an ensemble with QuickTime 6. No
>matter how loud you set it, it'll inevitably drown, simply because the
>volume hasn't got time to build before the note is ended.

I wouldn't want to defend Quicktime's sound samples, particularly not
the string sounds, but on my machine 'Acoustic String Ensemble'
(program 48) has a hard attack, as does 'GS Orchestra' (1072).  And
the fiddle (110) is still there under Ethnic instruments.  All of them
sound the same (or equally crap!) under QT 4.1.2 and 6.0.2.

>Then there's the clarinet sound for the Norwegian arrangments, of
>course. Sounds like it comes from a cheap mid 80s Casio keyboard. It
>took me only half an hour to build a more realistic clarinet sound from
>scratch on my battered old DX7.
>The obvious solution, sound fonts, is rather cumbersome and doesn't
>solve this particular problem any way. What matters isn't what I hear,
>but what my visitors hear. I can't just ask them to just download and
>install a cuple of megabytes of sound fonts to play the midis at Musica
>Viva.
>Even the old QuickTime 1 I use on my old LC is better. Sounds tacky, and
>you can forget everything about realism, but at least it works!
>
>One of the great things about QuickTime as a midi player, is that it
>established a common platform for how the midi samples sounds. It
>doesn't cost a dime and you can use it to play midis on most any
>computer you like with more or less the same results. Unortunately, with
>QuickTime 5 Apple blew it big time :-(

They introduced a number of bugs with QT 5, some of which persisted
until QT 6.0.1, but I don't think the GM sound samples changed at all.
I suspect you may have something wrong with your QT installation.  One
problem that I've seen is that the network installer sometimes fails
to update everything that it should, so you end up with a mixture of
files from different QT versions.  Despite the fact that I have to
download over a 56 kbaud modem connection I make a habit of always
downloading the free-standing installer.  I then go through my system
folder and trash the Sound Manager plus every file with 'Quicktime' in
its name, and re-start the machine before running the installer.  (I
keep the old installers, of course, just in case I want to go back to
an earlier version.)

Phil Taylor


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