On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Dick Atlee wrote:
> Guido, the F# "error" you mention on the page is confusing to me. I
> have always been told -- and have only encountered music that assumed --
> that an accidental notation covers every subsequent instance of that
> note in the same measure, regardless of the octave the subsequent notes
> are in. You seem to be saying that someone told you that was not true.
> I'd appreciate some references to authoritative sources on the subject
> before I change a lifetime of (perhaps mis-)perception. Thanks for any
> help in clearing this up.
>
Before Guido answers this is not his statement, I'll answer this because
since noteedit-2.2.x I'm also a member of this mailing list.
Indeed, before changing this I contacted a some musicians of the
LilyPond mailing list. The beginning of this controversy was a
composer who was surprised about NoteEdit draws a tie here:
|\
----|-|----O------------|----#--O------------|-------------------------
| / | | | | | | | |
--- |/----|---------|---|------|--------|----|-----------|---------|---
/| | | | | | | | |
- /-|- ---|---------|---|------|--------|----|-----------|---------|---
| /| \ | | | | | | | |
--\ | /---|---------|---|------|--------|----|-----------|---------|---
-|- O | O | # O O
----|-------------------|----------------\---|---------/---------------
* - \----------/
He declared a f cannot have a tie with f#. And he declared this
is so farcically that he won't use NoteEdit any longer.
He'd rather write the ASCII based storage format of NoteEdit directly.
And it seems he is right, because there was no fundamental contrariety
at the LilyPond mailing list, although this is a meeting point of
many musicians.
The main argument seems to be: If the higher notes belong to
an upper voice (soprano) and the lower notes belong to a
lower voice (alto) every musician reads only his/her voice. Thus,
the alto has no information about the f# in soprano.
The question and the answers can be found at:
http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-05/msg00306.html
http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-05/msg00307.html
http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-05/msg00309.html
http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-05/msg00310.html
Note! I'm not a musician and I was never at a music school. So
you can't start any discussion with me, because I depend on
the opinion of other musicians.
So, if you have a different opinion please contact the above
writers. Or ask on this list.
But if you mean it is a f#: Meanwhile I'm also convinced
it is an f, because otherwise there are some very complicated
situations. Think about this:
|\
----|-|----O------------|----#--O------------|-------------------------
| / | | | | | | | |
--- |/----|---------|---|------|--------|----|-----------|---------|---
/| | | | |O | | | |
- /-|- ---|---------|---|------|--------|----|-----------|---------|---
| /| \ | | | | | | | |
--\ | /---|---------|---|------|--------|----|-----------|---------|---
-|- O | |O O | # O O
----|-------------------|------|---------\---|---------/---------------
* - |^ \----------/
| \
\
\
f or f# ???
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J.Anders, Chemnitz, GERMANY ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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