Dear all,

we have received additional comments from Yoshihiro Ohba (many thanks) that we 
share with you. 

Please, see some comments inline.

"Here is my review of draft-perez-radext-radius-fragmentation-04.

Section 1:

"Each RADIUS packet can transport several RADIUS attributes, to convey
the necessary information to the other peer, up to a maximum size of 4
KB of total data (including RADIUS packet headers)."

[YO] I suggest to replace "4 KB" with "4096 bytes" throughout the
document since "KB" can mean 4000 bytes in some cases.

[Rafa] OK.


"A reference-based mechanism is also proposed in [RFC6158], where
attributes can be obtained through an out-of-band protocol."

[YO} Meaning of this sentence is unclear. Does this mean RADIUS
attributes are obtained through some other protocol instead of RADIUS?
Or does this mean the actual format of the Value field of a RADIUS
Attribute is defined in other protocol specification? In the latter
case, it should be also mentioned that RADIUS-EAP is categorized as the
mechanism defined in RFC 6158.

[Rafa] It is referring the value of the attributes can be obtained by other 
protocol instead of RADIUS. This is coming from a previous comment related with 
SAML transport. Instead of transporting the real SAML messages an URL is set as 
attribute value. We can try to clarify a little bit more.

"However, there are no proposals to deal with fragmentation at a packet
level, when the total size exceeds the 4 KB limit imposed by the RADIUS
specification."

[YO] Meaning of "at a packet level" is unclear. Suggested change:
"However, there are no proposals to fragement a large-sized RADIUS
packet into multiple small-sized RADIUS packets, where the length of the
original (unfragmented) RADIUS packet exceeds the 4096-octet limit
imposed by the RADIUS specification."

[Rafa] This sounds good.


Section 2:

[YO] I am not sure if "T" flag is needed. In other words, it should be
possible to change [I-D.ietf-radext-radius-extensions] to simply allow a
fragment with the M-flag cleared not to be included in a non-last chunk.

[Rafa] 

Yes, that may be possible. It is worth noting that we wanted to keep unmodified 
any existing I-D by the time being. Moreover, 
[I-D.ietf-radext-radius-extensions] has not considered that fragmentation at 
packet level may occur for obvious reasons. Moreover, that I-D is in a mature 
state now.

In any case, we may ask authors of [I-D.ietf-radext-radius-extensions].

Section 3.3:

[YO] Access-Accept fragmentation scheme looks odd compared to
Access-Request and Access-Challenge fragmentation schemes. There are
several questions related to this: (1) Why multiple chunks of
Access-Accept cannot be sent without having an Access-Challange to be
sent in between? (2) Why an Access-Accept cannot contain a
More-Data-Pending attribute instead of using a new service type value?
(3) How can a large attributue that is allowed to appear in an
Access-Accept but not allowed to appear in Access-Challenge be fragmented?

[Rafa]

1) We wanted to be symmetric in the design, where 
Access-Request/Access-Challenge exchange is used somehow for fragmentation 
support. In any case, we have also considered the usage of Access-Accept with 
Service-Type[AddAuth] so until all the attributes in the whole RADIUS 
Access-Accept are finally sent the exchange will be 
Access-Request/Access-Accept (Service-Type[AddAuth]), while the last one is 
simply Access-Request/Access-Accept. This mode of operation would solve your 
question 3).

2) I think that may be also possible. In any case, I think Alan or Alex can 
elaborate a little bit a more about the usage of Service-Type[AddAuth].

3) Precisely, trying to answer this question we just came up with the solution 
in 1). What do you think?  

Section 8:

[YO] Security Considerations section is too short. Security mechansims
that are needed for secure operation of the proposed fragmentation
mechanism needs to be described in this section.

[Rafa] Yes this section will be improved. Jim also raised comments about it.

Section 9:

[YO] I don't think the following statement is true: "This document has
no actions for IANA." because Section 6 defines new attributes.

[Rafa] Correct. This needs to be fixed.

Best Regards,
Yoshihiro Ohba
"

Best regards.

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Rafael Marin Lopez, PhD
Dept. Information and Communications Engineering (DIIC)
Faculty of Computer Science-University of Murcia
30100 Murcia - Spain
Telf: +34868888501 Fax: +34868884151 e-mail: r...@um.es
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