Hi,

We've been able to send a 720p stream (from a VGA-HDMI scaler) at about 
24-25fps on a machine with a dual-core, hyperthreaded 3.46Ghz P4 processor and 
2Gig of RAM, which essentially maxes out one of the cores. Trying to view 
streams on that machine, however, usually results in some packet loss.

Mike and Jimmy - what framerate and bitrate were you running at? I'm concerned 
since I was only about to get about 11fps when trying to send a 1080i stream; 
above that and it tended to choke. The problem is that since this version of 
vic is entirely single-threaded, it's always going to be stuck on one core, 
which is going to severely limit performance of single instances of vic. I.e., 
sending 3 720p streams might be fine, but sending just a single 1080i stream 
could be problematic depending on processor, and the same goes for receiving 
many HD streams with a single vic. Jimmy, this is probably why decoding many 
streams showed an even 25% processor use. Did you see any packet loss when you 
were trying this?

Derek - using a Decklink is theoretically possible but I'm not sure if it's 
guaranteed to be supported right now. Nathan Gardiner from HIT Lab NZ would 
know for sure; I'm cc'ing him on this. If you want to play it safe, I would go 
with an Intensity card and cameras with HDMI outputs that are switchable 
between 720p and 1080i. Also keep in mind that the current version does not 
support 1080i at 30fps; I'm going to see what I can do about that soon.

--Andrew


2009/4/17 Vine, Derek A <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>


   Thank you very much for your input.  For a follow-up question, what cameras 
are you using?  I am considering the Sony EVI-HD1 but I haven't heard of anyone 
else using them.  Plus since they don't have HDMI I would need to get something 
from the DeckLink line or a different manufacturer for the HD-SDI input but I 
am not sure if VIC will support that.

   I just don't want to tell them to spend $20k on cameras and capture cards 
just to find that they won't work, and we all know how fun an exchange is 
through a University system.

   Thank you again for your input.

   --Derek

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   From: Jimmy Miklavcic 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
   Sent: Fri 4/17/2009 5:17 PM
   To: Vine, Derek A
   Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
   Subject: RE: HDMI VIC system useage on Windows


   Derek, I recently built a new AG System with two Core Duo Quad systems. I 
have three Blackmagic Intensity Pro cards in the capture machine and a display 
machine with two Nvidia 9800XT graphics cards. I tried putting a fourth 
Intensity pro card in the display machine but it was a bit much.

   On the capture system, we used the H.264 codec at 720/30p and with three 
vics, the system was running above 75% across all four processors. The display 
machine, in our case, decoding around 15 incoming streams, all using H.264 or 
Mpeg-4, was running around 25% across all four CPUs. We did run audio on a 
third machine, 48KHz, stereo. But I don't see any reason for not running rat on 
your display machine.

   We also discovered the the H.264 consumer service also pick up all the 
streams but we just ran the HDMI-Vic manually. We did nothing special with the 
venue server.

   Good luck. If you want to test your system with mine, let me know.

   Jimmy

    --
   Jimmy Miklavcic
   Multimedia Specialist
   [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

   UNIVERSITY OF UTAH
   CTR FOR HIGH PERFORM COMPUTING
   155 SOUTH 1452 EAST RM 405
   SALT LAKE CITY, UT 84112-0190

   Office: 801.585.9335
    Fax: 801.585.5366

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      From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Vine, Derek A
      Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:27 PM
      To: ag-tech
      Subject: [AG-TECH] HDMI VIC system useage on Windows



      For those of you who are or have used the HDMI VIC on Windows, could you 
please provide your capture hardware, system specs and the resource usage to 
both capture and display?



      What I am really getting down to is will a system be able to support 
three HD cameras for capture and up to 9 HD streams to display?  My plan is to 
use 2 workstations each with 2 QC Intel Xeon processors, one for capture and 
the other for display and sound.



      Finally, do we need to make any special considerations as far as our 
Venue Server to support these streams?



      Any information that can be provided is greatly appreciated.



      Thank you,



      Derek Vine

      Communication Network Specialist

      The University of South Dakota

      414 East Clark Street

      Vermillion, SD 57069

      (605) 677-8215

      [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>






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