Hi Matthew,

One point to remember is that if you are picking up audio from a 3 metre 
radius, that you will also pick up ALL extraneous noise within that range, 
including room acoustics, air-con, projectors, other possibly unwanted voices 
etc etc. So the audio quality is bound to diminish. It's worth checking the 
setup to see if it's acceptable before going "live" and getting complaints. If 
possible ask to try out the equipment. If the company you're purchasing from is 
any good they will understand and may even help with a solution.



(that's my tuppenceworth)



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From: owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov [mailto:owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of 
Jason Bell
Sent: 13 August 2008 00:03
To: Matthew Leszczenski; Jimmy Miklavcic; ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov
Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] Equiptment ideas?



G'day Matthew



Can I suggest you have a look at the chat150, as I have used it within the 
range of 3 meters and I find it works reasonably well.  Obviously you will have 
to adjust the mixer settings to increase the gain, but I think it might be 
acceptable.



The other benefit of this device is that it has 3 microphones for pickup, which 
assists with picking up audio from different directions.



Obviously an open area is more difficult and that having the mic on a table 
which allows the audio to absorbed and picked up better will assist.



Anyway, I guess it cannot hurt to try one and if it doesn't work, use it for 
another application.



My 5 cents worth.



Cheers,

Jason.



From: Matthew Leszczenski [mailto:mxl9...@rit.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2008 5:59 AM
To: 'Jimmy Miklavcic'; ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov
Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] Equiptment ideas?



I have also considered USB based devices, such as the iChat, and the Duet. They 
do not have a very good range for microphone pickup from my experience with 
them, they are good for very close range (~ 4 ft, after that it doesn't pick up 
anything very well).  Unless do you know of a USB microphone that has a better 
range, and gain, so it can pickup sound decently in an open area from more then 
6-8 ft?



Matthew Leszczenski

 - Technical Assistant and Eagle Scout

 - Undergraduate NSSA Major @ RIT

 - Collaboration Technology Developer @ RIT Research Computing department



From: Jimmy Miklavcic [mailto:jimmy.miklav...@utah.edu]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:32 PM
To: Matthew Leszczenski; ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov
Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] Equiptment ideas?



Did you consider the USB mics, Duet PCS or ClearOne iChat series? Each mic does 
its own EC.



Jimmy



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   From: owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov [mailto:owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf 
Of Matthew Leszczenski
   Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:20 PM
   To: ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov
   Subject: [AG-TECH] Equiptment ideas?

   Hello all,

                   One of my current projects is a public AG kiosk-like setup, 
in which people will be able to walk up to the node, choose a stream and start 
to talk directly with that stream. The area is about a 12' X 12' square area, 
with drop-tile ceiling, it will consist of 1x HD camera, 1x DV camera, 2x 52" 
HD LCD TV's, 1x high quality microphone, some sort of directional speakers, and 
an echo cancellation system.  It seems that I would only need one microphone 
input for this project. However I have mostly worked with the ClearOne XAP400, 
which is a dual line-in echo cancellation system, and the XAP does not seem to 
come in a single line-in version. Is there some other echo cancellation unit 
that people would suggest for a setup like this? Or have I missed a single 
line-in version of the XAP? Also any other suggestions for the node would be 
nice to hear, in case others have ideas that haven't been thought of, or others 
are thinking of building a node such like this.





   As always all help is appreciated!



   Matthew Leszczenski

    - Technical Assistant and Eagle Scout

    - Undergraduate NSSA Major @ RIT

    - Collaboration Technology Developer @ RIT Research Computing department



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