Hello Andrew,

We've run several BiAmp Nexia VC's around our campus and found that they do an 
excellent job on the echo cancellation front.  Very flexible in configuration 
and easy to adjust using a web interface.  We also have the RS.232 port in use 
for remote mic on/off.

Clearone are not my favourites:  We have Converge 560's and a 590 in use but 
they are almost impossible to get operating well for echo cancellation.  They 
will reduce the volume and cut the bass from a local talker when audio arrives 
from an external venue.  They work fine when only one venue is speaking at a 
time, but paper noises, coughs or laughter etc cause this effect.  All Clearone 
could suggest was to ensure the in/out levels were well matched.   Despite 
careful adjustment, (which did give an improvement) I've not been able to get 
the quality of the Nexias.  I've tested our Nexias with other Nexias and also 
with Clearone Interact units at other uni's and found the same fault on the 
Interact units.  I've also found the fault on a couple of Clearone RAV900's but 
they at least could be adjusted to be acceptable.

Others may have had different experiences, and I'm hopeful that a reliable 
method for calibration will appear for the Clearone equipment. (I've tried 
using tone and pink noise for setting levels at both local and remote venues, 
and tested with a pre-recorded repeating voice test in both venues but couldn't 
fully eliminate the strangling effect.)

Of course, Clearone's other units may perform well but I've had no experience 
of those.

Regards,

Lloyd Pearson
eConferencing Specialist
Teaching & Learning Facilities, ITS
University of Otago
Dunedin
New Zealand

Ph +64 3 479 8997
lloyd.pear...@otago.ac.nz


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Daviel [mailto:ad...@triumf.ca] 
Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013 10:58 a.m.
To: accessgrid-tech@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [AG-TECH] Biamp as echo canceller ?


I did an AG install some years ago, when the recommended echo canceller 
hardware was the Gentner XAP. For some reason I forget now, I chose the Vortex 
EF series instead which seemed very similar in concept and capabilities. So I'm 
familiar with both those product lines.

We have had a proposal from a consultant to upgrade our auditorium systems, 
which is a multi-purpose venue - some local audio reinforcement for local 
meetings, some Evogh video, some H323, speakerphone, playing movies etc. We 
currently have an EF2241 with no spare channels.
The consultant wants to use a Biamp AudiaFlex system, which I've never heard of.

Is that a step up/down/sideways or just different ?

One thing we want to do is have some control from a Crestron system. I'm not 
sure exactly what, but switching video sources is one, and being able to set 
the audio reinforcement gain from the podium is another. For our AG install, 
Crestron seemed like overkill and expensive so I didn't go there.
Vortex runs standalone with programming/monitoring over RS232 from a Windows 
application, and boasts some kind of optional passthru module that's supposed 
to work with Crestron.

--
Andrew Daviel, TRIUMF, Canada
Tel. +1 (604) 222-7376  (Pacific Time)

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