Motorola Queue is a SmartPhone and as I said, I don't have much experience with them. Apparently it is a good model and also has a qwerty keyboard.
Regards, Kiran. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shahbaz Ali Khan Sent: Wednesday, 02 August 2006 4:12 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PDA and Mobile speak pocket question would you like some comments about Motorola Q ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDA and Mobile speak pocket question >I don't quite agree with what your friend or someone has suggested that > 6681 can do all the things that a PDA can do. Or to put it differently, > it may be able to do most of the tasks alright but there are drastic > changes in how things are done. Both technologies have their own > advantages and disadvantages and I should also admit that Nokia is much > more active with its SmartPhone development than any of the other > Windows based PDA and PDA phone manufacturers. > > Perhaps I should write a blog entry about the real difference on the > AccessIndia site but let me try to explain it briefly here. Before we > get into a sort of comparison here, I should make it clear that PDAs are > basically three types. A basic PDA with a touch screen having a few > buttons and bluetooth and wireless capabilities is the first variety. > The second variety is the PDA Phone. This is the most feature rich of > all PDA types. In addition to having a touch screen, a few button, > bluetooth and wireless, it also has a GSM or CDMA phone built in. And > most of the PDA phones also have a built in qwerty keyboard which can be > typed on using your thumbs. So, it is also called a thumb keyboard. PDAs > without Phone features are not in great demand these days although HP > and Dell still produce them. Some PDA and PDA phone models like the HP > iPAQ 6515 also have a builtin GPS receiver. The third variety is the > Windows SmartPhone. This variety resembles a standard candy bar mobile > phone but runs a stripped down version of Windows instead of Symbian or > Linux. I haven't worked much with Windows SmartPhones and so I cannot > comment too much on them. Also, for the comparison, I would only use the > PDA Phone variety as it makes more sense as a convergence device. > > First things first, a Nokia 6681's or any other Symbian based phone's > primary feature is to allow people to make and receive voice calls and > text messages. This is given top priority. Whatever additional features > you get are bonus. And whatever additional features are there are > derived from this phone and text messaging interface. With a PDA Phone, > it is the reverse. It is a PDA first and phone next. Phone features are > adapted to the PDA interface. > > As far as technical differences are concerned, PDA phones tend to have > superior hardware than Nokia phones although Nokia is catching up with > its new line of N series phones. N91 has the best sound quality I have > ever heard in an mp3 player let alone phone. The base and trebble > effects are just amazing. Other N series phones also have decent sound > output but Windows PDA phones have been having very good sound quality > for a long time. You can listen to music or books without any hesitation > even in noisy environments which is not that easy with a Nokia phone > based on Series 60 second edition. The volume is not loud enough. The > processor speed and the memory capabilities arer also better but again > Nokia is catching up with their N Series. Bluetooth, Infrared and WiFi > are standard and some PDA phone models also have GPS receivers. All > these features (at least WiFi and GPS) are yet to appear even in N > Series. But superior hardware also has its disadvantages one of which is > higher battery consumption. > > Stabilitywise, Symbian phones are better. Symbian is geared towards > mobile phones while Windows CE has been adapted from PDA to PDA Phone > models. There can be crashes in PDA phone now and then and you may have > to restart the phone during this time. You won't loose any data though. > > All the productivity functions on PDA Phones like Outlook, Calendar, > Contacts and tasks resemble your standard Outlook on Desktop. You may > not have all the features of the desktop versions, but most of them are > there. And the synchronization between your outlook desktop and outlook > on PDA is very good. For instance, if you add or change a phone book or > contact entry in your phone, it will be reflected in Outlook and vice > versa as soon as you synchronize. This is also possible with Nokia > phones with the Nokia PC Suite. But with PDA phones, the process is much > simpler. > > Pocket Word, Pocket Excel and Pocket Internet Explorer in PDA Phones > resemble their desktop counterparts although with limited features. > Nokia phones also have these capabilities with Quick Office but as users > already point out, using these applications is simply not realistic > because of their design. > > Now comes the real difference of access technology. A screen reader for > PDA or PDA phones, Mobile Speak Pocket is far more advanced than that of > Talks or Mobile Speak. Infact, I wouldn't call Talks and Mobile Speak > screen readers at all. They are just speech interfaces where as Mobile > Speak Pocket is a full fledged screen reader. And like all other > applications on the PDA, Mobile Speak Pocket also has most of the > features of a desktop screen reader like Jaws but which are relevant and > most useful for a PDA platform. All the text navigation commands > (reading by character, word, sentense, line and paragraph and the > similar feature to Insert+DownArro with Jaws) are available in Mobile > Speak Pocket. These makes reading long documents a breaze. Tell me any > one of you Nokia phone users have been able to read a 300 page novel in > MS Word format on your phones using Quick Word? I used to do this with > my PDA Phone regularly. Have you been able to review and edit an excel > worksheet regularly on your 6681s? I can do this everyday on my PDA > Phone. And e-mail, have you really been able to download all messages on > to your Nokia phones and read and respond to them for days at a stretch? > Even when using a bluetooth keyboard, it is not so simple. I can do this > without any sort of problem on my PDA phone. Infact, I did this using a > GPRS internet connection when I was in Bangalore for a few days and I > didn't have my laptop with me. All the text navigation commands are > available in Outlook too. > > And Internet, I used to read all my news pages using the PDA Phone > through a GPS connection because Mobile Speak Pocket offers the > functionality of a virtual buffer and virtual PC Cursor which means that > you can read through all the webpages and activate the links and forms > just as you do with Jaws on a desktop. Finally, there is Windows Media > Player on the device. My 1 GB memory card on the PDA Phone would always > be filled with MP3s. > > Looks like I am getting carried away too much with MSP. But anyway, I > would prefer a Windows Ce based PDA Phone over a Symbian phone any day. > It is certainly more expensive than a convensional phone. The total cost > would be upwards of 40000. This system is a true replacement for a > dedicated note taker for the blind such as Pacmate or Braille Note. It > is much more than a mere mobile phone. Enough for now. More in the > blog... > > Regards, > Kiran. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aruni Arsh > Sent: Tuesday, 01 August 2006 6:03 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: [AI] PDA and Mobile speak pocket question > > Hi listers, since we have Dinesh who is currently working with code > factory and kiran who has worked with the same in the past I thought of > > asking this question on the list. I would like to know how effective > mobile speak pocket is and what PDAs are available in the market which > would be affordable and feature rich. How much appprox does one have to > spend on the software and hardware? Some of my friends have said there > is hardly any use of the PDA for us when we can have advanced mobile > phones like nokia 6681. is there anyone on the list apart from the > software developers who is using a PDA? > > -- > best of regards > Aruni > Ph: +91 522 404-2921. cel: +91 933-584-4700 > EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo: aruni100 > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype: aruni_sharma > C-103, sec H, Aliganj Lucknow--24. > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i > n > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
